Friday, March 14, 2014



September 20, 2008

Revised January 8, 2014

Editor Bill
 
A true teaching first taught every where beginning in the first century  Roman Catholic Ecclesiam.  ‘Extra Ecclesiam nulla Salus.’ Outside the Ecclesiam of Christ no one can be saved.
First notice very carefully, beware this is the true teaching of the first century Roman Catholic Ecclesiam the Latin phrase "extra Ecclesiam nulla salus" meaning: in word definition "outside the decisions made by Christ for the entire called out assembly the Greek 'Ekklesia' of Christ there is no salvation." 
What is the Ecclesiam of Christ.  The Ecclesiam of Christ is the Bible Greek word "Ekklesia," the entire called out assembly gathered for the purpose to determine as in a "trial" or a court of law, the true source of "doctrine" or "Dogma" (true source of instructions that is making the claim to be from God).
What is the responsibility in purpose or the function of the Ecclesiam of Christ.  It is the responsibility of the entire called out assembly to make decisions what is to be taught in the entire called out assembly.  
Now to keep the entire assembly from hearing what truth is to be taught, the Church leaders will say, your brain is too small,  you are too stupid and can not learn or understand what truth is,  so as a "cult" only one or a few selected men will become a "cult" and determine for the entire group what is to be taught as dogma (instruction making the claim to be from God).   
Here is the true word definition and function for the Greek Bible word Ekklesia or the Latin Ecclesiam. Greek "Ek Klaeo"  The "Out Called."  The German Grimm's Bible dictionary and Thayer's Greek English Lexicon  describes precisely the true function of what the purpose of the  Ekklesia of Christ is “an assembly of the people convened at the public place of council for the purpose of deliberating.” (Note carefully the responsibility or  purpose of the entire called out or the Ecclesiam of Christ is “Deliberating” to determine doctrine or Dogma (determine true source of instructions from God) and the entire called out assembly is to determine altogether as one (the entire assembly)  who is teaching true source of doctrine or law to be made through controlled but aggressive polemic debate in the entire called out assembly.) [See J. H. Thayer, A Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament, page 196]

Now hear the words of Christ.
The true Bible translations of Matthew chapter 16 verse 18 and then compare to your Bible translations of a "Church" to the true name of the "Ekklesia of Christ."
The true English Bible translation reads (I will give Strong’s Dictionary Bible Greek word numbers to make your own study of word definitions of Greek Bible words easy for you to discover what truth is).
Christ ask this question of his apostle who do people say that I am.  13 ¶ 
Now when Jesus came into the parts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Who do men say that the Son of man is?14  And they said, Some say John the Baptist; some, Elijah; and others, Jeremiah, or one of the prophets. 15  He saith unto them, But who say ye that I am? 16  And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God. 17  And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Bar-jonah: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father who is in heaven.(AV)
We will amplify and parse the Greek of Matthew chapter 16 verse 18  And <1161> I say <3004> (5719) also <2504> unto you <4671>, That <3754> you <4771> are <1488> (5748) Petros [a small rock] <4074>, and <2532> in <1909[The called out of God who are now -in the awesome Petra]> this <5026>Petra [Keep the Context -As you Simon who by the surname of “Petros” (meaning only a “Little Rock”) Petros  has just confessed who Christ is;  “You are the son of the living God, or Christ is saying "I am the Petra"  of -your confession when you say that I am the son of the living God.”
This the son of the living God is the awesome "Petra" which is known in the ancient world to be metaphorically expressed as the awesome unconquerable mountain fortress of “Petra.”  "Petra" the unconquerable mountain "fortress."  "Fort", "Bulwark", Embattlement." "Fortress" or "Stronghold" Fortifications.

Isaiah prophesies of the coming Ekklesia. He will called the Ekklesia "The Mountain of the Lord."  Isaiah 2:2 In the last days the mountain of the Lord's temple will be established as chief among the mountains; it will be raised above the hills, and all nations will stream to it. :3 Many peoples will come and say, "Come, let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, to the house of the God of Jacob. He will teach us his ways, so that we may walk in his paths." The law will go out from Zion, the word of the LORD from Jerusalem. :4 He will judge between the nations and will settle disputes for many peoples. They will beat their swords into plowshares and their spears into pruning hooks. Nation will not take up sword against nation, nor will they train for war anymore. :5 Come, O house of Jacob, let us walk in the light of the LORD.
Isaiah prophesies of the coming Mountain of Christ and how the Ekklesia will keep a holy solemnity in the night at the corrected resurrection moment.
Isaiah chapter 45: (AV) 29  Ye shall have a song, as in the night when a holy solemnity is kept; and gladness of heart, as when one goeth with a pipe to come into the mountain of the LORD, to the mighty One of Israel. 
Kohlenberger translates "And the song He shall be to you in the night when a holy solemnity is being kept."

For humans the first Petra is the unconquerable mountain fortress which is military constructions or buildings designed for the defense of territories in warfare, and also used to solidify rule in a region during peace time.
Christ the son of the living God is the Petra or the awesome mountain fortress. The Christ the son of God is the awesome fortification of God in the military sense designed to edify the entire assembly for the defense of doctrine (to discover the true source of  instructions from God).
The son of the living God or the metaphor of the mountains fortress of Petra, Christ is declaring that I the son of God am metaphorically what is known in the spiritual war as the mountain fortress of Petra. In the first century the entire civilized world knew the word “Petra” is the unconquerable mountain fortress the greatest armies in the world could not conquer. We will give more information of the mighty unconquerable mountain fortress of Petra Later.
To make your own word search easy for you I will give you Strong's dictionary Greek word numbers so you can prove to self if these things taught here is true.
Christ is saying to Simon whose surname is "Petros" (A little rock,) who has just confessed the Christ is the son of the living God. Then Christ declares as the Son of the living God, I am He who is the awesome metaphor of the unconquerable mountain fortress of Petra and on Christ the Petra (Not the Pope)]” <4073> I will edify <3618> (5692) my <3450> Ekklesia <1577>; and <2532> the gates < 4439> of Hades [Hell]
 <86> shall <2729> <0> not <3756> prevail against <2729> (5692) it [My Ekklesia] <846>. [Amplifying in brackets is mine.] As you can see this verse is about the son of God, the awesome Petra or mighty unconquerable mountain fortress in a spiritual warfare against the gates of hell to determine true source of doctrine or true instructions from God.  The Ekklesia of Christ is the design of God to edify those whom God has called out to be identified as being -in His "The Ekklesia of Christ."
Now here again is the true translations of Matthew chapter 16 verse 18
18  And I say also unto you, That you are Petros  [Strong's Greek word number 4074 petrov pet’-ros  a small Rock]
and in [see Strong's Greek word number 1909 epi ep-ee’.
this Petra [Christ is see Strong’s Greek word number 4073 pet’-ra  the metaphorical great and unconquerable mountain fortress]
I will edify [See Strong’s Greek word number 3618 oikodomeo oikodomeo oy-kod-om-eh’-o edification 2a) Meaning to edify is the act of one who promotes another’s growth to become more "Christ Like" in wisdom, righteousness,  piety, happiness, holiness. See another verse written with the same Greek word oikodomeo meaning to "edify." Romans chapter 14 verse 19  Let us therefore follow after the things which make for peace, and things wherewith one may -edify [see Greek word oikodomeo] another.
Christ declares;
my Ekklesia [ek-klay-see’-ah see Strong’s Greek word number 1577
“The entire Called Out whose responsibility is to deliberate Doctrine the Latin "dogma" through aggressive polemic debate” (To determine true source of instructions from God.)
Warning The "faith" is law or the Latin "Dogma" "Law or instructions from God is written just once for all eternity so who gave you authority for a second "Faith"  or a "Catechism?"   Jude 3 ¶  Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints. 
To altogether contend with those who oppose truth and determine for the entire assembly true source of the Faith (doctrine or law)  for the entire assembly. Deliberate for the faith that was written just once for all eternity.
The apostle Paul taught that "Faith" of God is Law see  Romans 3:27.
If you have made a complete historical study of the first Ekklesia ever to exist in Athens Greece, you will see this word definition given by the German Grimm Bible Dictionary and Henri Thayer's Greek lexicon is giving us a perfect word definition for the Greek Ekklesia of Christ.
Thayer’s Greek English Lexicon describes precisely the true function or what the purpose of the Ekklesia of Christ is “an assembly of the people convened at the public place of council for the purpose of deliberating Page 196).”
(Note carefully the -purpose of the Ecclesiam of Christ is “Deliberating” to determine in a controversial teaching who is teaching true source of doctrine or law to be made through controlled but aggressive polemic debate before the entire called out assembly. Then it is the responsibility of the entire called out assembly to make judgment and all agree together who is teaching truth for the entire called out assembly.
Now you should begin to see why the Catholic Church changed her name from  the Latin "Ecclesiam of Christ" to begin to identify herself in her Catechism as the "Church of Christ"  so as a church cult with only one man or only ( the pope) or a few men (the ecumenical council) similar to the Jehovah's Witness and their Watch tower society  who demands that only they rule over the people in what is to be taught.  Only one or a few men who rule make the claim that only they are mentally intelligent enough to hold the complete rule over the entire called out group.
 So why would anyone want to call self a "church" after the new teaching of Catholic church instead what Christ identifies as His entire called out  "Ecclesiam of Christ?" Brethren and friends to identify self as a "church" completely contradicts the purpose of Christ and His Ecclesia.
Christ knew what he was doing when he established His Ekklesia. Will you trust Christ to put into practice His purpose to establish His entire body of His Ekklesia to make the decisions of what doctrine is to be taught in the entire assembly? If every professing Christian knew the true purpose of the Ekklesia of Christ and would only challenge and demand their church leaders hold aggressive polemic debate in their entire assembly,  with those who oppose their church doctrines (instruction they are making the claim to be from God), over ninety five percent of all churches in the entire world would disappear within five years. The first churches to go would be the churches who establish their doctrine from writings outside the Bible such as  the Catholic church's Catechism and the Mormon's book of Mormon. Think about what would happen if every professing Christian in the entire world would return to become the true Ekklesia of Christ?

We professing Christians can all come to one mind only if we all become the true  "Ekklesia of Christ" and allow polemic debate in the entire called out assembly and then the entire assembly decide altogether what doctrine is to be taught in the called out assembly.   Though the acts of the Ekklesia of Christ, polemic debate before their entire assembly The Jehovah's witnesses would be an instant push over and the Watch Tower Society  of the "Jehovah's Witnesses" are terrified to even so much as speak to discuss true word definition of polemic debate to determine true doctrine before their entire assembly as the true Ekklesia of Christ.  The Mormons are terrified to become the true "Ekklesia of Christ."  Once truth is brought before their entire called out assembly they would be completely destroyed by truth being taught before them and then their entire assembly allowed to make the decisions of what truth is.

Already ten years since the growing brotherhood have been promoting true word definition for the true Ekklesia of Christ, the Catholic church is starting to gear up for the onslaught.  She knows her time has come for truth to rule to determine true dogma.

To begin to gear up for the fight, suddenly Pope John Paul on his visit to the united States begins say "you protestant want too much to be like an "Ecclesiam." Pope John Paul knows very well the Latin word "Ecclesiam" is written very clear in the first translation of the Roman Catholic Latin Vulgate made by Jerome in the late fourth century. True word definition for the Latin word "Ecclesiam" demands public discussions on any Latin Dogma which terrifies Catholic leaders because they know they are going to be exposed for their false "Dogma" or their apostate doctrine before all their entire congregation.
God did not start any church. At first this may seem like the most stupid claim for some Bible scholars today to teach the Greek word "Ekklesia" is not a "Church!" Such as the most respected Bible scholars as the ancient German Bible scholar named "Grimm in their German  Bible dictionary" and also the Greek lexicon of Henri Thayer. Both dictionaries teach that God did not start any Church by stating the word "Ekklesia is not the same function or purpose of a "church."
To See and to know what and where all true Christians now exist “In” see record in Hebrews chapter 12.  All true Christians exist in;
a)  The Hebrew writer declares -You Christians have not come -to a mountain that can be touched (verse 18). 
b)  All Christians have come to exist -in;
1.  The metaphorical Spiritual mountain of Sion (or Zion) the Greek polis or to the highest.
2.  You Christians have come to and now exist -in The city of the living God.
3.  You Christian now exist -in “The Heavenly Jerusalem.”
4. You Christians are now -in a company of angels that can not be numbered.
5.  You Christians are now -added (Acts 2:47) -in both -to  "The general assembly" and "the Ekklesia of the first born."
6.  Which spiritual names of all Christian, God has given them the name -within His Ekklesia and their spiritual names are written or recorded --in heaven.
7.  You Christians have now come -to God the judge of all.
8.  You Christians have come -to or they are now joined together by God to the spirits of just men made perfect,
9.  You Christians have now come -to Christ Y’esus the mediator of the new covenant,
10. You Christians have now come -to the blood of sprinkling, that speaks better things than that of Abel.
Every "called out" member of the Ekklesia are the spirits that God has "known before" 29 ¶  For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
30  Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.
31 ¶  What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us? (As in warfare.)
See Greek word 4267 proginosko "to be known before" and we are predestined by God (Romans chapter 8) or “drafted” by God into His spiritual army” as in the spiritual war for the purpose to fight to determine true source of Doctrine for all the Ekklesia of Christ. If you are in truth a member of the Ekklesia of Christ, it is your duty as a soldier of Christ, to study the word of God and after training or learning truth "get hot" and rise up and begin to fight against the gates of hell to determine true source of doctrine (instructions from God).
Mat. 16:19  Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: [Baptizing or passively immersing]
20  Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.
and the gates [see Greek word number 4439 the pule poo’-lay]. The Ekklesia whose known function is polemic debate before the entire general assembly to deliberate with the spiritual sword of God in the spiritual war to determine truth and in the spiritual war to stop ignorance and misunderstanding, and to "edify" to unite the disciples of Christ and to reveal truth against the false teaching of the gates of Hades (or Hell).
As Christ declares there is only one strait gate or the gate that leads unto life is hard to find and hard to get through (Mat 7: 13-14). There are no gates that lead out of Hades. The Greek word “pule” is translated by most translators in the plural of "Gates" because of many false teaching of many different churches that lead only to the prison of Hades (Hell). It is understood once inside this prison Hades there is no “Gates” that leads to the outside.]
of Hades [see Strong’s Greek word number 86 ? Hades hah’-dace or Hell is the place of the departed spirits who are in continual pain, discomfort and they must eternally exist in continual competition.
shall not prevail against it [will not or absolutely can not overcome in the spiritual fight of the gates of Hell against my Ekklesia]. Today there is still only one Ekklesia of Christ.
There is said to be counted one hundred and thirty eight thousands names of different Churches with thousands of different church doctrines (instructions all are making the false claim to be from God). As you can see "Churches" can not overcome the gates of hell because all true churches -are the gates of hell. Pray that you are not judged by our God to be -in or any part of any true church.
Just as Christ taught the true Ekklesia of Christ can and will prevail over all churches and there is still only one Ekklesia of Christ.
As you should be able to see by the very words of Christ declares the militant war like nature of the function or the true purpose of the true “Ekklesia of Christ” is a war fought from within the awesome unconquerable mountain Fortress is the Christ the "Petra" against all churches.
This verse describes the “Ekklesia” of Christ is teaching us that through polemic debate before the entire called out assembly, is to use the “Sword of God” in the spiritual warfare against the gates of Hell to determine true source of doctrine (the Latin “Dogma”) which “Doctrine is the true instructions from God.”
In the unconquerable mountain fortress of “Petra” the Spiritual war made against the Gates of Hell, the true Ekklesia of Christ will determine true doctrine (instructions from God) through aggressive but controlled polemic debate before the entire called out assembly. The Ekklesia in the spiritual war of Christ made against false doctrine “the gates of hell” will "edify" both the enemy of God and the Bride of Christ which is the Family of God.
Y'esus purchased only His "Ekklesia" with his own blood. A correct Bible translation. Acts 20:28 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the Ekklesia of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.
The one true Ekklesia will Submit To the will of Christ, just like the bride submits to The Groom.
Ephesians 5:21 Submit to one another out of reverence for Christ. :22 Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord. :23 For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. :24 Now as the Ekklesia submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything. :25 Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the Ekklesia and gave himself up for her :26 to make her holy, cleansing {[26] Or <having cleansed>} her by the washing with water through the word, :27 and to present her to himself as a radiant Ekklesia, without stain or wrinkle or any other blemish, but holy and blameless. :28 In this same way, husbands ought to love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself. :29 After all, no one ever hated his own body, but he feeds and cares for it, just as Christ does the Ekklesia—:30 for we are members of his body.
Are you certain that you accept Christ Y'esus as the founder of your Ekklesia? If you have, then you must have first accepted everything he commands for his Ekklesia to do.
One of the true characteristics or identifying marks of the one true Ekklesia is the name that shows ownership of the true Ekklesia.
Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to men by which we must be saved (Acts 4:12).
The Ekklesia is identified as the bride of Christ and the bride will wear the true name of Ekklesia of Christ Y'esus who is the groom or Husband.
In The Roman Catholic Latin Ecclesiam, the entire "called out" assembly are the ones who must decide as their responsibility what "doctrine" or the Latin "Dogma" (true source of instruction is making the claim to be from God) the entire called out assembly will choose doctrine for the entire assembly for their eternity. Outside the decisions of the entire called out assembly no one can be saved.  Does the entire called out assembly of your  "Church" determined what is to be taught as "doctrine" (the Latin Dogma or instruction making the claim to be from God) in your Church?  Has your entire  assembly exercised your responsibility for the entire assembly to determine true Doctrine or have you  allowed one man to determine your future and eternal existence?
 So who is choosing for you what you must believe to be saved?  Are you certain those you allow to choose what you must believe as "doctrine" or "dogma" instructions making the claim to be from God, can be trusted for your eternity?
Now notice very carefully.  Cardinal Josep Ratzinger denies the dogma ‘Extra Ecclesiam nulla Salus’ the Church should change to be inserted in the evolution of the world.
See at this web site http://www.traditioninaction.org/ProgressivistDoc/A_006_RatzingerSalvation.htm
The false teaching of Cardinal Ratzinger  is wrong. This is the problem with the false word "church." Doctrine or the Latin "dogma" (or the instructions supposedly coming only from God) in the first "church" which the original name of the goddess "Circe" was only started in the fourth century by Constantine and begin to change with the evolution of the teaching of disciples of Satan and the world.
The word of God is written only once and hear the word of God because His word was written only once and His word never changes.   The false teaching of all Churches changes through the centuries only to deceive us and to allow the world to continue to sin and only think that they can be saved in a "church."
Jude 3 ¶  Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.
God makes judgment of the heart or the seat of the emotions of the Man.
First Samuel chapter 16 verse 7b "for the LORD seeth not as man seeth; for man looketh on the outward appearance, but the LORD looketh on the heart."
The heart of humans that which motivates humans never changes.    Consequently the "faith" of God is written just once for all eternity for the heart of Humans.
Therefore as the world evolves the faith or law of God never needs to be changed to a "Book of Mormon,"  a "Catechism" of the Catholic church or a "Baptist manual."  You will never need an "update" for the law of the faith of God which is written just once for all eternity. 
To "Contend" is to fight, aggressively debate,  discuss, wrestle, elaborate "("the law of faith" Roman 3:27) which is written just once for all of eternity.
We point out to all Catholics for over a decade, that the function or purpose of the "Ekklesia of Christ" or the  Roman Latin Ecclesiam of Christ is not and can not be any part of any "church."   The purpose of the Ecclesiam of Christ is to contend for the Faith and is nothing like that of a "church."  The true Roman Latin "Ecclesiam of Christ" when compared to a  "Church" are two entirely  different entities.  
Then you surely -can be saved only in the "true Ecclesiam" of Christ" but outside the -first century Roman Catholic Ecclesiam of Christ you can not be saved.  There is no salvation or you can -not be saved in any "true Church" because a true "church" is not any part of  the true Ecclesiam of Christ.  The heavenly Father or the infinite God of the Bible did not establish any church.  All church leaders know this to be an absolute fact, The blasphemous word "Church" is not written just once in the entire ancient languages of the Bible.  They also know this fact to be true, word definition for the word "Church" is not found written just once in the entire ancient languages of the Bible.  So where did the Catholic Catechism or your Bible translations  get the false word "Church" for your worship you make to your God.
We are not the first to teach the Ekklesia or the Latin Ecclesiam of Christ is not the Catholic church.  Today Pope John XXIII is being exposed and is being defamed as an anti-Pope  and a heretic for teaching what the Catholics teach is modernism when he taught that the Ecclesiam of Christ is not  the same as the Catholic Church of Christ.   To make the claim that the Latin Ecclesiam is anything like "Modernism" is showing the height  of complete ignorance of what truth is.  The Roman Catholic Latin word "Ecclesiam of Christ" predates the evolved word "Church of Christ" by a thousand years.  Saint Jerome who translated the Vatican Codex into the Latin Vulgate in the late fourth century wrote to correctly translate  the Latin transliterated word "Ecclesiam" of Christ in the Latin Vulgate.
(See in the most ancient first translated Catholic Latin Vulgate by Saint Jerome Matthew chapter 16 verse 18 et ego dico tibi quia tu es Petrus et super hanc petram aedificabo ecclesiam meam et portae inferi non praevalebunt adversum eam
Try and read the above verse in Latin and see if you can discover the word "ecclesiam."  If you see the word "ecclesiam" then why would you want to become the pagan "church?"  So let us discover what the first Century true Roman Latin Ecclesiam of Christ is.

A serious question you as a professing "Catholic" you must ponder the answer only in truth; How long has it been since your entire congregation has been the true "Ecclesiam" or the true "called out" in Christ?   How long has it been since the entire congregation has exercised your responsibility  as a Christian to hear "doctrine" or  the Latin "Dogma" being deliberated and then it is the responsibility of the entire "Ecclesiam" to make judgment what is to be taught as true Doctrine for self and for the entire assembly your eternal life with your creator and God.

It is the function or purpose of the entire called out assembly the Catholic Ecclesiam of all the people to determine for self true source of doctrine (instructions making the claim to be from God).

The church leaders or the Pope, preachers, priest the Elders or leaders of the Ekklesia are not the ones who determine true source of doctrine for the called out assembly (Ecclesiam) but the entire called out assembly, the entire Ekklesia of Christ must be the ones who make the decision and determines truth in what they understand to be true source of Doctrine (Instructions proven to be from God).   Just as in any court of law to determine truth it is the people who have heard what the law is as in the jury who hear the opposing sides sand the entire Ekklesia determines what truth is.

Now again note carefully word definition for the most ancient word "Ekklesia" has not Changed in two thousand five hundred years. So we can easily see the function or the purpose "Deliberating to determine true source of "doctrine" (or the instructions from God) by the entire called out  Ekklesia of Christ is nothing like a "Church."  Pope John XXIII is correct.

So how long has it been since you have seen and heard polemic debate in your entire called out assembly of all members of the Catholic church so all your church members together in one unit can determine true source of doctrine, the  Latin "dogma" or true instructions from your heavenly Father? 

Do you fully understand the gravity of what it means to be inside the true Roman Latin Ecclesiam of Christ.   Do you fully understand the total responsibility of every professing Christian to attend any and all polemic deliberations of the "called out" Ekklesia to determine true source of doctrine for self or the true instructions that are making the claim to be from God.

The true Ekklesia of Christ will challenge (invites) those who teach  a different doctrine (dogma) to deliberate differences in Doctrine (instruction making the claim to be from God).

Christ taught know the truth and the truth will set you free from your sins.
John 8:32  And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.
So suddenly some of the Catholic church leaders when faced with true word definition of "No one can be saved out side the true Ecclesiam of Christ"  are being terrified of truth.  Then for the first time in one thousand seven hundred years the Catholic church, some church leaders see their enslaving rule over the people beginning to crumble as truth is being taught.  Some teachers of Catholic doctrine begins to reverse self and they begin to make an about face and begin to make the claim that any people can be saved in any "church" outside the Ecclesiam or the Catholic church.  What? Saved outside the true Ecclesiam of Christ? The answer to this question that you must discover what truth is for your salvation.
The most recent Catholic teacher explained this teaching that "all salvation comes from Christ the Head through the Church which is his Body."  According to the first century Catholic church of Christ teach that salvation  is found only the "Ecclesiam of Christ" and not in any "Church."
This most ancient true teaching extra Ecclesiam nulla salus first comes from the ancient writings of Saint Cyprian of Carthage, a bishop of the 3rd century before any church was ever started in the fourth century.
Take careful note the false Catholic Bible translation  Acts 2:47b The and Lord was adding those being saved everyday to the congregation.
Truth for Catholics and all who call themselves a "Church."
"And the Lord added to the Ekklesia daily such as should be saved (See correct Bible translation of Acts chapter 2 verse 47b).

Catholic Douay Rheimes version of the Bible   47b  And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved.

But the Catholic revision of the Latin Vulgate has completely removed the Latin word Ecclesiam from this verse so that you can never be able to discover what truth is.
Read the oldest Bible translations to discover truth.


There should be elected only by the entire Ekklesia a plural of elected elders to lead in every Ekklesia of Christ  Acts 14:23  And when they had ordained them elders in every Ekklesia, and had prayed with fasting, they commended them to the Lord, on whom they believed.

The function of an Elder who is elected only by the entire call out Ecclesiam the leader of the people which is not a Pope.
Every one who is called out and is added by God to His Ekklesia is a "Saint."

1Cor 1:2  Unto the Ekklesia of God which is at Corinth, to them that are sanctified in Christ Y'esus, called to be saints, with all that in every place call upon the name of Y'esus Christ our Lord, both theirs and ours:

The Apostle Paul gives us this warning to beware of church leaders and Bible teachers that would steal our most precious future of eternal life and separate us from our creator God. 

Colossians chapter 2 verse 8  Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. 

I am begging you to study this subject for your precious life with your heavenly creator and make certain you will not be robbed of eternal life to live eternally with your creator and infinite God of creation.   For once in your life take heed and listen and then do as the apostle Peter is giving us this warning;
 2Peter 1:10  Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall.

Let me further warn you, if you do not make certain of your salvation then you are certain to fail or to fall backwards. To fail in this study you have no knowledge of the horrific consequences you will suffer.

Today there is a revival and a great awaking taking place in professing Christians leaving "Churches" and then returning to become again the first century "the true Ekklesia the Latin Ecclesiam  of Christ."  The Ekklesia of Christ is not a "church."  Take the true warning "Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus" " outside the "Ecclesiam" there is no salvation meaning, to remain inside any true  church" there is no salvation, because the true function of a "church" is not anything like the true Ecclesiam of Christ.

God commands to come out of "churches" and to be His Ekklesia or the Catholic Roman Latin "Ecclesiam" of the first century. Revelation chapter 18 verse 4  And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

 Some Catholics returning to become the first century the true Roman Latin Ecclesiam of Christ. 
A world of Catholics and others are leaving "churches" and are returning to restore and to become the true Ekklesia or (the ancient first century Roman Latin Ecclesiam of Christ). 

Leaders of the Roman Catholic church are alarmed at this sudden reversal of some Catholics and protestants who are against being named or identified as any part of any "Church." Today when some Catholic and protestants learn the truth that they are not worshiping God in truth in any true Church when they identify themselves by the wrong name and the wrong function or the wrong "purpose" in being a member of any "church."

When faced with the truth of their own teaching extra Ecclesiam nulla salus
The leaders of the Catholic Church did not want their people to know that the most ancient "Circe" which has now evolved to become a "church" is nothing like the true Latin "Ecclesiam of Christ."

On his visit to the United States Pope John Paul declares "You protestants want -too much to be like an Ecclesiam" (see Pope John Paul's visit to the United States (As seen on You Tube.) 

I want you to take careful note Pope John Paul revealed to the world that he understood the difference between the true Roman Latin Ecclesiam of Christ and the false blasphemous name written in the Catechism of the Catholic church as "The church of Christ."  

Pope John Paul would not have made such a public statement "You protestants want too much to be an Ecclesiam" if he did not fully understand the great differences between the purpose of a Church comparing to the purpose of the true Ekklesia of Christ. 
The Catholic leaders all know when their people of the Catholic church learn truth of the difference between the Ekklesia of Christ and a "Catholic church." Catholics have been teaching you can only be saved in the true Ecclesiam of Christ and not in any Church. Then the truth loving Catholics will demand that their church leaders must once again become true members of the first century true Latin Ecclesiam of Christ and begin to hold aggressive polemic debate in their entire assembly so the entire called out assembly of the Ecclesiam will determine for selves their true source of doctrine (instructions making the claim to be from God).

To become the true Ecclesiam of Christ is to open the entire assembly of the Catholic church to deliberate source of doctrine (instruction making the claim to be from God) with any who bring the charge that the source of your church doctrine is not from the Bible but is from the disciples of Satan.  

We question how can it be possible that any professing Christian wants  "too much" to be like the purpose of the  true Latin  "Ecclesiam" or the true "Ekklesia of Christ?"  The greater question is "Wanting too much" is for whom?   To become the true purpose of the Ekklesia of Christ is "too much" As a professing Christian to be saved you must learn the difference in the purpose of the Ekklesia of Christ compared to the ancient "Circe" that has now evolved to become a "Catholic church."  This wanting to become the true first century Latin "Ecclesiam" is too much and terrifies  Pope John Paul and all the leaders of the Catholic church.

Today  only a few but tomorrow millions will be leaving "Churches" to return and to become the true spiritual "war like" purpose of the Ekklesia of Christ to determine true source of doctrine or the instruction from God.  

Another question is "Why is it -too much to want to leave the "Church" and then return and become the true "Ekklesia of Christ"   Those who leave "churches"  when they learn truth of the difference between what the Catholic Latin Ecclesiam of Christ is not a true "Church of Christ."  When some Bible students learn the difference between what a "church" is compared to what the true Ekklesia of Christ is"   they discover a "church" is not the true Ekklesia of Christ.

Now notice very carefully one of the oldest true teaching of the Roman Catholic "Ecclesiam" (the Greek Ekklesia) is a true teaching to this day;

"Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus" Outside the Ecclesiam no salvation.

This is a the most ancient true teaching by the Catholic church that "Outside the Ecclesiam of Christ no one can be saved." Get on your computer and make a world wide search and then read this true teaching of the Catholic Church teaching everywhere on the internet;  "Outside the Ecclesiam you can not be saved."  Believe them this is a true teaching of the Catholic Church.    If a true "Church" is not the same as the true Latin "Ecclesiam of Christ"  then the one who remains in a "church" can never be saved because it is true while you remain a member of a true Catholic church, you are outside the true Ecclesiam of Christ and you can only be saved in the true purpose of the true Ecclesiam of Christ.

In the Catholic  Sacrosanctum Concilium it is said:
Therefore no other person, even if he be a priest, may add, remove, or change anything in the liturgy on his own authority
This new teaching that in any church you can be saved is contrary to the clear and infallible teachings of Vatican I and II.
Local bishops or priest are not individually infallible and are not to violate canon law, the Vatican’s directives, or their national conference’s directives.

As you can see there is now growing into a multitude of different sects of the Catholic Church.  They need to call  out their entire Latin Ecclesiam and hold polemic debate and allow the entire assembly to discover truth in who is teaching true dogma or doctrine in the modern Catholic church just the same as the first century Roman Latin Ecclesiam did in the first century.

Because the ancient fourth century "Circe" which is now in the twenty first century evolved to be called a "church" is not the same entity  as the first century Roman Catholic "Ecclesiam of Christ." Then  people in Churches who do not conduct self the same as in the first century Roman Catholic Latin Ecclesiam can not be saved until they obey God and then God must first add them to His "Ekklesia" (see Greek of Acts 2:47b I will give you Strong's Greek dictionary number so you can check Bible dictionaries to prove to self that in obedience to God, then he only  adds you to His Ekklesia and not to any Church.  

Here is the true Bible translation of those who were being immersed in water to be saved. Get your Bible dictionary and check Strong's Greek word numbers to determine truth.

 And <1161> the Lord <2962> added <4369> (5707) to the Ekklesia <1577> daily <2596> <2250> such as should be saved <4982> (5746).  

No where does the Bible record say God will add anyone to any true "church." A "Church" is not the Ecclesiam of Christ because they each have a different function.

Constantine who in the early fourth century stopped the purpose of the true function of calling out to deliberate "Doctrine" or the Latin Dogma before the entire assembly of the true Roman Latin Ecclesiam and then to stop deliberations to determine true dogma, the Emperor  Constantine started the first Roman Catholic "Circe" or "church" in the fourth century.

Today there are 138 thousands churches with thousands of thousands of different church doctrines in the world and there is still only one Roman Latin "Ecclesiam of Christ" or from the Bible Greek the word only once true "Ekklesia of Christ."

The Old Roman Catholic teaching of the first century is still correct we must identify salvation is only found to be -in the true Latin Ecclesiam of Christ.

It is a true teaching of the Catholic Ecclesiam "Outside the Ekklesia or the Latin Ecclesiam of Christ no Salvation."

If the "Church is -not the true "Ekklesia of Christ" then no one in any "true Circe" or "Church" can be saved.  Because a Church is impossible to be the same as the true Greek "Ekklesia" or the first century Roman Latin "Ecclesiam" of Christ."

Here is the original Greek of the fourth century Catholic Church written in the Greek Polyglot and translated by Jerome into Latin by the gospel writer Luke in Acts chapter 2  verse 47b.

 

3588—1161    2962          4369
 O         De     kurion   prosetiqei
The    And   Lord        added

 3588              4982                  2596—2250        3588        1577
  toun        swzomenoun      kaq hmeran        th      ekklhsia

the ones   being saved        daily              to the    Ekklesia.

Note carefully nothing in this record is mentioned about God adding anyone to a "Church."

The true Greek record of the Catholic Polyglot Greek record is the original Bible translation of Acts chapter 2 verse 47b the record declares  And the Lord added to the Ekklesia daily such as should be saved.

My friend you must discover who has added you to a true "church" and not to the true Ekklesia of Christ.  In the Old Latin Bible the Vatican Codex translated by Jerome into  the original Latin Vulgate reads;

English verse 47 Praising God, and having favor with all the people: but the Lord added daily to the Ekklesia such as should be saved

Do not let anyone deceive you and rob you of eternal life.

Today the wicked leaders of the Catholic church, to deceive their people have removed the word "Ecclesiam" from this verse.

Notice now and read for self how the new and modern twisted Catholic Latin Vulgate reads different from the fourth century Latin Bible.  Look closely to see if you see the word Ecclesiam in this verse;

47  conlaudantes deum et habentes gratiam ad omnem plebem dominus autem augebat qui salvi fierent cotidie in id ipsum

The Latin word "Ecclesiam" is completely removed from this verse only to completely deceive you and to completely rob you of eternal life.

Again note carefully, the Greek record did not say that God added anyone to a "Church"  but Luke did write that God adds people to His Ekklesia.

Do you really want to be saved then make this study to learn what is truth of what the true purpose of the "Ecclesiam of Christ is" compared to "what a "church is" so you can be certain which one you will choose to be in so that you will be certain that you will be saved.  We do not ask you to only take our word for this true teaching of the most ancient Roman Catholic Ecclesiam.  We will make your truth in Bible research easy to discover what truth is for your salvation from the Bible Greek Dictionaries.  So here again is the Strong's Greek dictionary numbers for this verse just look up the word Ekklesia;

  And <1161> the Lord <2962> added <4369> (5707) to the Ekklesia <1577> daily <2596> <2250> such as should be saved <4982> (5746).

Notice very carefully, nothing is said in the above verse about God adding anyone to a "Church." Bible translators must be able to prove first that the word "church" is established by God for the same "reason" or the same "function" as the "Ekklesia" of Christ. 

-Before Bible translators can correctly translate the ancient pagan word "Circe" that over the centuries the ancient pagan Greek word "Circe" has today evolved to become what is called the "Church." The Bible translators must show word definition that the word church has the same word definition as the Greek word "Ekklesia."  In truth it can not be done!  I am warning you that the ancient Greek word "Circe" or a "church" is not designed for the same reason or function  as the true Ekklesia of Christ and the false word "Church" is not a true Bible word.  Word definition for the word "church" is not the same word definition as the Greek Bible word "Ekklesia." 

Outside the Ekklesia of Christ you can not be saved in any "church."

Since we have started teaching it is true outside the true Ekklesia or the Roman Latin "Ecclesiam of Christ" -No one can be saved in function or the purpose of a "church.   Then when we show what true word definition of what the Ekklesia (the Latin Ecclesiam) of Christ is, then suddenly when some Catholic leaders are faced by the truth of what the true Ecclesiam of Christ is, there is a sudden about face in the beginning of false teaching of some Catholic church leaders.   To justify to be saved in the Catholic church some Catholics are now teaching that the  Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus" or "Outside the Ekklesia there is no Salvation" is now become a false teaching of the oldest Roman Catholic Ecclesiam!  Today some Catholic leaders of churches are now beginning to teach that you can be saved in any church outside the Roman Catholic church or outside the Latin "Ecclesiam of Christ.'  Warning these wicked Catholic Church leaders do not want their members to know what the true ancient Latin Ecclesiam of Christ is.

Do you fully understand the gravity of the false teaching by leaders and teachers of the Catholic church in the above paragraph?

Some of the false teaching of the Catholic church is now teaching that you can be saved in any "Church" outside the true Roman Latin Ecclesiam of Christ.  Do not let them deceive you, this is the true teaching of the oldest Roman Latin Catholic teaching that the  Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus" or "Outside the Latin Ecclesiam of Christ is no Salvation."  This is still a true teaching and beware if you are outside the true Ecclesiam of Christ an instead you are only in any true "Circe or "Church" you can -not be saved in any church.  If you can be saved "in any church" then why go to the Catholic church?

This is a new  Catholic teaching that you do not need to be in the Catholic "church" to be saved. see at this Catholic web site

http://www.catholic.com/magazine/articles/what-no-salvation-outside-the-church-means By: Jim Blackburn

Now also notice this false teaching of the Catholic church from this web site http://extraecclesiamnullasalus.pathsoflove.com/

But those who are, without their fault, unaware of this plan of God, can be saved without belonging visibly to the Church, and only united to it through the mysterious bond of grace and charity working in their soul, which unites them spiritually with all who have grace, unites them with the Church. In this sense they are saved in and through the Church; without belonging to it in this sense (Extra Ecclesiam) they would not be saved.

Now notice very carefully this man "Father" Joseph Ratzinger denies the dogma ‘Extra Ecclesiam nulla Salus’  Dogma or Doctrine is instructions making the claim to be from God.  He is saying just the opposite of truth you cannot be saved in the Ecclesiam but you can be saved in a "church."  This is the doctrine of Satan.

See teaching at this web site http://www.traditioninaction.org/ProgressivistDoc/A_006_RatzingerSalvation.htm  "Father" Joseph Ratzinger was one of the progressivist theologians who gave his opinion. He wrote two articles for this book. In one of them Ratzinger takes as a consummate fact that the dogma "extra Ecclesiam nulla salus" [there is no salvation outside the Catholic Church] changed. Without presenting any argument he considered that the dogma doesn't make sense when compared to the modern geographic discoveries that "prove" that the world has millions of years, instead of the 4,000 years of the biblical history. He implies that it cannot be true that all the people that lived during these millions of years were not saved.

 Some past Popes, some cardinal, bishops and other Catholic teachers are now still teaching [there is no salvation outside the true Roman Catholic Ecclesiam of Christ].   They are teaching the truth no one can be saved outside the true Ekklesia of Christ.  Some Catholics teach this truth that only -in the same Roman Catholic Latin "Ecclesiam of Christ" of the first century can any one be saved].

Beware The Roman Catholic  "Ecclesiam of Christ" never was a "Circe" or what has evolved to become a "Catholic Church."    So which one of these two teachings is correct.

This pure Bible teaching is the truth, that -out side the first century "Ekklesia" or the Catholic (Universal or world wide) Latin Ecclesiam of Christ you can not be saved. Then this is the first century true teaching that eliminates those in any churches of being saved and is true teaching that you can not be saved in any church but you must be added by God into the true Ekklesia or as  is transliterated the Latin "Ecclesiam of Christ." 

Here is proof the Ekklesia of Christ existed in the Old Testament as well as in the New Testament.

Acts 7:38  This is he, that was in the Ekklesia in the wilderness with the angel which spake to him in the mount Sinai, and with our fathers: who received the lively oracles to give unto us:

Christ died for his Ekklesia in the Old Testament as well as in the Ekklesia of the New Testament.  Ephesians  5:25  Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the Ekklesia, and gave himself for Her; ( I have correct the mistranslated word "it" to the true translation understood "Ekklesia" which is the female context and the true Greek word see Strong's Greek word number 846 autov autos ow-tos’ The Feminine is correctly translated and written as Christ died for "Her" the bride of Christ)

 The Bride of Christ is the true Latin Ecclesia of Christ is the called out people of God and Christ died for His bride the Ekklesia.

The Ekklesia of Christ is not a "church of Christ."  The record declares that Christ died for His Ekklesia.   Nothing was said about Christ dying for any "Church."

The Old Greek pagan word "Circe" the house of circle worship made to the goddess of round things that has evolved to become the derivative of the  modern English word “church” is a false translation of Christ’s word that he named His “Ekklesia.”

Now take very close notice to this bit of true church History.  In the record of Matthew chapter 16 verse 18 is a good example of translation of the Greek word “Ekklesia” is found in the transliteration for the Catholic church by Jerome in the fourth century. 

In the Latin (or English) language there is no word equivalent for the Greek word Ekklesia.  Jerome who translated the Greek Vatican Codex into the Latin Vulgate simply transliterated the Greek word Ekklesia into the Catholic Latin Vulgate Bible as the true Bible word “Ecclesiam.”  Do you as a Catholic who loves truth fully understand clearly what was just stated? The first to third century Roman Catholics at first were called the "Ecclesiam of Christ" and not a "Church of Christ." This is very important that we know the difference between what is the Ecclesiam of Christ compared to what is a “church of Christ is” that is now written in the catechism.  To be honest that kind of transliterating by Jerome into the Latin or the English translations of the Greek word Ekklesia should also be done today in all Bible,  precisely the same as Jerome did in the Latin for all the called out people of God in the entire world see Matthew 16:18.    See the Polyglot of the Catholic Vulgate here   http://www.latinvulgate.com/              

The Latin vulgate of the Catholic “Ecclesiam of Christ” that is written in the Catholic Latin Bible is not a "Circe of Christ" which is the more ancient Greek word derivative for  “Church of Christ.”

So notice very carefully to the answer, why did the Catholic church no longer want to be identified as the “Ecclesiam of Christ” as is written in their Latin Bible? Why did the Catholic Church -change the name of their Bible name “Ecclesiam” written in their Latin Bible to the false word “church” in their “Catechism?” 

The answer is the change to the name “church” was made purposely by the leaders of the catholic church to be able to deceive the masses and be able as a "church" to remove polemic debate from their called out assemblies.  It is the greatest importance for us to discover; the reasons why the fourth century Catholic church changed the translated Bible name “Ecclesiam” to the false name “Church.” The word definition for “Church is not the same for the Bible Greek word “Ekklesia.” 

Today for over the centuries Bible scholars have been giving Christians warning the ancient pagan word “church” is a blasphemous false word supposedly translated from the Bible Greek homonym word "Ekklesia" of Matthew chapter 16 verse 18. There seems to be no truth loving Christians who will pay any attention to the warning of the watchmen of the most ancient group of the "Church of Christ." Why? So notice now the true Bible translations of Matthew chapter 16 verse 18 and then compare to your Bible translations of a "Church" to the true name of the "Ekklesia of Christ."
The true English Bible translation reads (I will give Strong’s Dictionary Bible Greek word numbers to make your own study of word definitions of Greek Bible words easy for you to discover what truth is).
We will amplify and parse the Greek of Matthew chapter 16 verse 18  And <1161> I say <3004> (5719) also <2504> unto you <4671>, That <3754> you <4771> are <1488> (5748) Petros [a small rock] <4074>, and <2532> upon <1909> this <5026>Petra [Keep the Context -As you Simon who by the surname of “Petros” (meaning only a “Little Rock”) Petros  has just confessed that  “You are the son of the living God, or Christ is saying "I am the Petra"  of -your confession when you say that I am the son of the living God.”
This the son of the living God is the awesome "Petra" which is known in the ancient world to be metaphorically expressed as the awesome unconquerable mountain fortress of “Petra.”  "Petra" the unconquerable mountain "fortress."  "Fort", "Bulwark", Embattlement." "Fortress" or "Stronghold" Fortifications.
For humans a fortress is military constructions or buildings designed for the defense of territories in warfare, and also used to solidify rule in a region during peace time.
Christ the son of the living God is the Petra or the awesome mountain fortress, The Christ the son of God is the awesome fortification of God in the military sense designed to edify for the defense of doctrine (the true instructions from God).
The son of the living God or the metaphor of the mountains fortress of Petra, Christ is declaring that I the son of God am metaphorically what is known in the spiritual war as the mountain fortress of Petra. In the first century the entire civilized world knew the word “Petra” is known to be the unconquerable mountain fortress the greatest armies in the world could not conquer. We will give more information of the awesome Petra Later.
To make your own word search easy for you I will give you Strong's Greek word numbers. Christ is saying to "Petros" (the little rock) who has confessed the Christ is the son of the living God. Then Christ declares as the Son of God He is the awesome metaphor of the unconquerable mountain fortress of Petra]” <4073> I will edify <3618> (5692) my <3450> Ekklesia <1577>; and <2532> the gates < 4439> of Hades [Hell] <86> shall <2729> <0> not <3756> prevail against <2729> (5692) it [My Ekklesia] <846>. [Amplifying in brackets is mine.] As you can see this verse is about the son of God, the awesome Petra or mighty fortress in a spiritual warfare against the gates of hell to determine true source of doctrine or true instructions from God to edify those whom God has called out to be identified as His "Ekklesia of Christ."
Now here again is the true Translations of Matthew chapter 16 verse 18
18  And I say also unto you, That you are Petros  [Strong's Greek word number 4074 petrol pet’-ros  a small Rock]
and in [see Strong's Greek word number 1909 epi ep-ee’.
this Petra [Christ is see Strong’s Greek word number 4073 pet’-ra
the metaphorical great and unconquerable mountain fortress]
I will edify [See Strong’s Greek word number 3618 oikodomeo oikodomeo oy-kod-om-eh’-o edification 2a) Meaning to edify is the act of one who promotes another’s growth to become more "Christ Like" in wisdom, righteousness,  piety, happiness, holiness. See another verse written with the same Greek word oikodomeo meaning to "edify." Romans chapter 14 verse 19  Let us therefore follow after the things which make for peace, and things wherewith one may -edify [see Greek word oikodomeo] another.
Christ declares;
my Ekklesia [ek-klay-see’-ah see Strong’s Greek word number 1577 “The Called out to deliberate Doctrine” (To determine true source of instructions from God,)
If you have made a complete historical study of the first Ekklesia ever to exist in Athens Greece, you will see this word definition given by the German Grimm Bible Dictionary and Henri Thayer's Greek lexicon is giving us a perfect word definition for the Greek Ekklesia of Christ.
Thayer’s Greek English Lexicon describes precisely the true function or what the purpose of the Ekklesia of Christ is “an assembly of the people convened at the public place of council for the purpose of deliberating.”
(Note carefully the -purpose of the Ekklesia of Christ is “Deliberating” to determine who is teaching true source of doctrine or law to be made through controlled but aggressive polemic debate before the entire called out assembly.) [See J. H. Thayer, A Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament, page 196].
Now you should begin to see why the Catholic Church changed her name from  the Latin "Ecclesiam of Christ" to begin to identify herself in her Catechism as the "Church of Christ." So why would anyone want to call self a "church" after the Catholic church? Brethren that does not make good sense.
If every professing Christian knew the true purpose of the Ekklesia of Christ and would only challenge and demand their church leaders hold polemic debate in their entire assembly,  with those who oppose their church doctrines (instruction they are making the claim to be from God), over ninety five percent of all churches in the entire world would disappear within five years. The first churches to go would be the churches who establish their doctrine from writings outside the Bible such as  the Catholic church's Catechism and the Mormon's book of Mormon.

Though the acts of the Ekklesia of Christ, polemic debate before their entire assembly The Jehovah's witnesses would be an instant push over and the Watch Tower Society  of the "Jehovah's Witnesses" are terrified to even so much as speak to discuss true word definition of the Ekklesia of Christ. 

Already ten years since the growing brotherhood have been promoting true word definition for the true Ekklesia of Christ, the Catholic church is starting to gear up for the onslaught.  She knows her time has come.

To begin to gear up for the fight, suddenly Pope John Paul on his visit to the united States begins say "you protestant want too much to be like an "Ecclesiam." Pope John Paul knows very well the Latin word "Ecclesiam" is written very clear in the Roman Catholic Latin Vulgate. True word definition for the Latin word "Ecclesiam" demands public discussions on any Latin Dogma which terrifies Catholic leaders because they know they are going to be exposed for their false "Dogma" or their apostate doctrine before all their entire congregation.
God did not start any church. At first this may seem like the most stupid claim for some Bible scholars today to teach the Greek word "Ekklesia" is not a "Church!" Such as the most respected Bible scholars as the ancient German Bible scholar named "Grimm in his  Bible dictionary" and also the Greek lexicon of Henri Thayer. Both dictionaries teach that God did not start any Church by stating the word "Ekklesia is not the same function or purpose of a "church."
To See and to know what and where all true Christians now exist “In” see record in Hebrews chapter 12. All true Christians exist;
a)  The Hebrew writer declares -You Christians have not come to a mountain  or an awesome mountain fortress that can be touched (verse 18). 
b)  All Christians have come to exist in;
1.  The metaphorical Spiritual mountain of Sion (or Zion) the Greek polis or to the highest.
2.  You Christians have come to and now exist in The city of the living God.
3.  You Christian now exist in “The Heavenly Jerusalem.”
4. You Christians are now in a company of angels that can not be numbered.
5.  You Christians are now -added (Acts 2:47) in both to  "The general assembly" and "the Ekklesia of the first born."
6.  Which spiritual names of all Christian, God has given them the name within His Ekklesia and their spiritual names are written or recorded in heaven.
7.  You Christians have now come to God the judge of all.
8.  You Christians have come to or they are now joined together by God to the spirits of just men made perfect,
9.  You Christians have now come to Christ Y’esus the mediator of the new covenant,
10. You Christians have now come to the blood of sprinkling, that speaks better things than that of Abel.
Every "called out" member or those spirits who are called out. They are those spirits that God has "known before" 29 ¶  For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
30  Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.
31 ¶  What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us? (As in warfare.)
See Greek word 4267 proginosko "to be known before" and we are predestined by God (Romans chapter 8) or “drafted” by God into His army” as in the spiritual war for the purpose to fight to determine true source of Doctrine for all the Ekklesia of Christ. If you are in truth a member of the Ekklesia of Christ, it is your duty as a soldier of Christ, to study the word of God and after training or learning truth rise up and begin to fight against the gates of hell to determine true source of doctrine (instructions from God).
Mat. 16:19  Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: [Baptizing or passively immersing]
20  Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.
and the gates [see Greek word number 4439 the pule poo’-lay]. The Ekklesia whose known function is polemic debate before the entire general assembly to deliberate with the spiritual sword of God in the spiritual war to determine truth and in the spiritual war to stop ignorance and misunderstanding, and to Edify to unite the disciples of Christ and to reveal truth against the false teaching of the gates of Hades.
As Christ declares there is only one gate that leads unto life (Mat 7: 13-14). There are no gates that lead out of Hades. The Greek word “pule” is translated by most translators in the plural of "Gates" because of many false teaching of many different churches that lead only to the prison of Hades (Hell). It is understood once inside this prison Hades there is no “Gates” that leads to the outside.]
of Hades [see Strong’s Greek word number 86 ? Hades hah’-dace or Hell is the place of the departed spirits who are in continual pain, discomfort and they must eternally exist in continual competition.
shall not prevail against it [will not or absolutely can not overcome in the spiritual fight of the gates of Hell against my Ekklesia]. Today there is still only one Ekklesia of Christ.
There is said to be counted one hundred and thirty eight thousands names of different Churches with thousands of different church doctrines (instructions all are making the false claim to be from God). As you can see "Churches" can not overcome the gates of hell because all true churches -are the gates of hell. Pray that you are not judged by our God to be in any true church.
Just as Christ taught the true Ekklesia of Christ can and will prevail over all churches and there is still only one Ekklesia of Christ.
As you should be able to see by the very words of Christ declares the militant war like nature of the function or the true purpose of the true “Ekklesia of Christ” is a war fought from the awesome unconquerable mountain Fortress is the Christ the "Petra" against all churches.
This verse describes the “Ekklesia” of Christ is teaching us that through polemic debate before the entire called out assembly, is to use the “Sword of God” in the spiritual warfare against the gates of Hell to determine true source of doctrine (the Latin “Dogma”) which “Doctrine is the true instructions from God.”
In the unconquerable mountain fortress of “Petra” the Spiritual war made against the Gates of Hell, the true Ekklesia of Christ will determine true doctrine (instructions from God) through aggressive but controlled polemic debate before the entire called out assembly. The Ekklesia in the spiritual war of Christ made against false doctrine “the gates of hell” will "edify" both the enemy of God and the Family of God.
On this subject of how to overcome the gates of Hell and to be One in Christ, we all must determine to give up being divided churches and to become one thorough  our prayers and our focus which should be the same heart and prayer as that of Christ our Savior -in the true name (authority)  he gave to his Ekklesia.
John 17:9  I pray for them: I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me; for they are thine.
10  And all mine are thine, and thine are mine; and I am glorified in them.
11 ¶  And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are.
19  And for their sakes I sanctify myself, that they also might be sanctified through the truth.
20 ¶  Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word;
21  That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.
22  And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:
23  I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.
24 ¶  Father, I will that they also, whom thou hast given me, be with me where I am; that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me: for thou lovedst me before the foundation of the world.
So what is in your heart (the deepest seat of your emotions) in the answer to the Prayer of Our Lord that we all put on the same mind of our God.  All brethren and all who profess to strive to be like Christ, willing to give up our divided "Church" factions and a multitude of church sects and return and determine with all our heart and soul to become one in the true Ekklesia of Christ.
Now look at the false Bible translation in the English in all the Bibles made by the Catholic church and her protestant church daughters that completely scrambles true understanding- “And I say to thee: That thou art Peter; and upon this rock I will build my Church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

Why did the Catholic church twist and remove true understanding of the Greek words "Petros" "Petra" "Edify" "Ecclesiam" from her teaching the need for salvation.  Now why do you think Pope John Paul and the leaders of the Catholic church do not want the world to know the entire Catholic church must stop being a "church" and return to become the true Ecclesiam of Christ to be saved?

 Why did the Catholic church refuse to continue to identify her self as the true  “Latin Ecclesiam” of Christ that is clearly written in her Latin Vulgate Bible but instead she chooses to change her name from the Latin word “Ecclesiam” and begin to identify herself only as a “Church.” The word “church” is now written in her false Catechism. She dare not open her assembly to polemic debate before her entire called out assembly and she is hiding the truth of the source of her church doctrine (dogma) only to deceive the entire Christian world.

When confronted with their true teaching of word definition of what a true Ecclesiam of Christ is, suddenly the Catholic church leaders begin to speak out of two sides of their mouth and begins to say anyone can be saved in any Churches outside the Latin Ecclesiam of Christ which the Bible does not teach any such thing.   Even the Catholic church Catechism is now beginning to teach you can be saved outside the Ecclesiam.  So who is teaching truth?

Because the word definition for a Church is entirely different from the Bible word Ekklesia or the Latin Ecclesiam of Christ.

Everywhere This truth has been a true Teaching By the Catholic Church for over one thousand seven hundred years; "Outside the Ecclesiam of Christ no one will be saved."  But when confronted with the difference between what is the true Ecclesiam of Christ is compared to a Church then they begin to back track and speak out of the other side of their mouth and begin to teach anyone can be saved in "Churches out side the true Roman Catholic Latin Ecclesiam of Christ."

So let us discover what is the true Latin Ecclesiam of Christ is.

Here is the true word definition and function for the Greek Bible word Ekklesia or the Latin Ecclesiam. Greek "Ek Klaeo"  The "Out Called."  Thayer's Greek English Lexicon  describes precisely the true function of what the purpose of the  Ekklesia of Christ is “an assembly of the people convened at the public place of council for the purpose of deliberating.” (Note carefully the purpose of the Ekklesia of Christ is “Deliberating” to determine who is teaching true source of doctrine or law to be made through controlled but aggressive polemic debate in the entire called out assembly.) [See J. H. Thayer, A Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament, page 196]
The church leaders or the Pope, preachers, priest the Elders or leaders of the Ekklesia are not the ones who determine doctrine but the entire called out assembly, the entire Ekklesia must be the ones who make the decision and determines true source of Doctrine (Instructions from God).
Now again note carefully word definition for the most ancient word "Ekklesia has not Changed in two thousand five hundred years. So we can easily see the function or the purpose "Deliberating to determine true doctrine or instructions from God of the Ekklesia of Christ is nothing like a Church.

So how long has it been since you have seen polemic debate in your entire called out assembly of all members of the Catholic church so all their church members together in one unit can determine true source of doctrine, dogma or instructions from God?  Do you fully understand the gravity of what it means to be inside the true Roman Latin Ecclesiam of Christ and the responsibility of every professing Christian to attend any polemic deliberations of the Ekklesia to determine true source of doctrine or true instructions from God for self.

Christ taught know the truth and the truth will set you free from your sins.
John 8:32  And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

In recent times, the Catholic Church has recognized that its teaching about the necessity of the Catholic Roman Latin Ecclesiam of Christ for salvation has been widely misunderstood because to day it has become a "church" instead of the true Ecclesiam.   So today the Catholic church has "re-formulated" this teaching to further be able to deceive their people.

Here is how the Catechism of the Catholic Church "Reformulate to allow anyone in a church to be saved" or change and begins to address this topic to continue their deception: "How are we to understand this affirmation, often repeated by the Church Fathers? Reformulated positively, it means that all salvation comes from Christ the Head through the Church which is his Body" (See Catholic Church Catechism page 846).

So now because the  Pope  has said so, you no longer need to be "inside the True Ecclesiam of Christ to be Saved" but now you can be saved in a "church" without the need to be in the true Catholic Ecclesiam of Christ.

So which membership are you truly inside "The Ekklesia or the Latin Ecclesiam of Christ" or "a "Circe" or a "Church of Christ."  They are not the same entity.  Are you certain because for centuries the Catholic church is warning and telling people the truth "Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus" or "outside the Ekklesia of Christ no one will be saved."  Now suddenly the Catholic Church is doing an about face in her teaching.

 The Latin Ecclesiam of Christ is translated from the Greek Bible word "Ekklesia" and the Ekklesia of Christ is not a "Church of Christ." History proves the word Church is evolved from the word derivative of the pagan goddess "Circe."  So now you are in a "Catholic Church of Christ" and no one has warned you that a "church" is not the same function or the same purpose as the true "Ecclesiam of Christ." 

If your leaders truly loved you and if they really wanted you to be saved inside the "Ecclesiam of Christ" as was first taught for near two thousand years, is it not reasonable that the Catholic church leaders should be warning you how to get out of a "church" and into the true Latin "Ecclesiam of Christ" as it is written precisely in their most ancient Latin Vulgate Bible? 

When there is suspect to be false doctrine or "dogma" (false instruction that is making the claim to be from God)  the entire assembly of the called out "Ekklesia" is to be called out to make the decision for self who has true source of the instructions (doctrine or the Latin Dogma) from God. 
 It is not a true Ekklesia or the Latin Ecclesiam of the first Century unless you call out the entire congregation, so the entire congregation are the ones who are to determine what true dogma or doctrine is to be taught.

Question; If you are a member of the Catholic church has your pope, Cardinal, Bishop or priest ever informed you about what is the purpose of the function of the true Latin Ecclesiam of Christ is to do? Did you know that your Catholic church leaders do not want you to know about the true function or the true purpose of the true Ecclesiam of Christ is to do?   

If the catholic church leaders did want you to know about the true purpose of the true Ecclesiam of Christ then tell us what and how much do you know for certain about the True function or the purpose of the Ecclesiam of Christ? Tell us why the Catholic Church does not allow her entire called out congregation in every city to function as the True Ecclesiam of Christ?  Why are the members of the Catholic church shut out of making decisions through the true function of the Latin Ecclesiam of Christ  for their salvation and for their eternal life with God?

Here is a true warning given by the Bishop Saint Cyprian of Carthage of the first Roman Latin "Ecclesiam of Christ" written in the third century to all Catholics and all none Catholics. Copied from Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
"The Latin phrase extra Ecclesiam nulla salus[1][2][3] means: "outside the Ecclesiam there is no salvation".[1][2] Even in The most recent Catholic Catechism interpreted this to mean that "all salvation comes from Christ the Head through the Ecclesiam which no Christian can deny is the true Body of Christ."[4]"
"This expression comes from the writings of Saint Cyprian of Carthage, a bishop of the 3rd century. The axiom is often used as shorthand for the doctrine (instructions from God), now cited or upheld by many Protestants, the Eastern Orthodox Church and the Roman Catholic Church, that to be in the true Ecclesiam of Christ is absolutely necessary for salvation.
The theological basis for this doctrine (true instructions from God) is founded on the beliefs that (1) Jesus Christ personally established the one Ecclesiam and not a "church;" and (2) Only the true Ecclesiam serves as the means by which the graces won by Christ are communicated to believers."
So is your organization the true "Ecclesiam" or is your organization a true "Church."   The Ekklesia (or Latin Ecclesiam of Christ) are not the same word meaning as a "Church of Christ."

Some very important teachings that all Catholics should know and all others who have Bible discussions with those of the Catholic church comparing the "Church" to the Bible Greek "Ekklesia" or the most ancient Roman Catholics who in the first tree hundred years had polemic debate in the called out assembly to hold polemic debate on controversial doctrine (dogma) and to edify the entire assembly to make true teaching of the "Ecclesiam" of Christ.

Pope John Paul wrote the truth about the function of what the church is to the members in his 1964 Encyclical.  The problem is Pope John Paul is wrong when he said "Jesus" founded or started a "church"  on the day of Pentecost. God did not start a "church" but Pope John Paul knows that Christ did not start a "church"  but he did start his Greek "Ekklesia" and the Ekklesia of God is not a "church,"   The "Function" of the ancient word "Circe' or a "Church" is not discovered to be written just once in the entire ancient languages of the Bible. 

The Ekklesia of Christ was not started on the day of Pentecost.  The Ekklesia was established on the corrected resurrection moment at "early dark" on the night of the day Mia or Day One of the Sabbaton which is the first of the seven day solar cycle of Sabbaton (The God of the Bible has no artificial measure of a solar week of seven solar days). 


Pope John Paul also wrote what the purpose or the function of "the Church" is when comparing the difference to what the "Ecclesiam" is.  John Paul wrote; "The church was founded by Jesus Christ to be the loving mother of the whole human family and minister to it's salvation."
The Church is not the mother of us all.  It is the new or the heavenly Jerusalem that is the "mother of us all."
Gal 4:26  But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.
The new Jerusalem of the first century Ekklesia, wrote the doctrine (instructions from God) for all Christians and the beginning Ekklesia of the first century is the mother of us all.

We have proof this is a false teaching, Christ absolutely did not establish a "church." We also prove this to be false that the word Church is not the Ekklesia of Christ and a "church" is not designed to be the mother of all Christians.   The Ekklesia of Christ is established to be the Bride of Christ and not the mother of Christ.

 Now be careful we all must admit this fact that Pope John Paul is correct about how men have designed "their Church"  so the church rulers can be like their "Mother" and spoon feed what they want their members to know and believe.   This word definition of Pope John Paul is the correct word definition for a "church"  spoke directly from out of the Catholic Catechism.

However be careful this word definition for a "church" is not a true statement for the true Roman Latin  "Ecclesiam of Christ." The Ekklesia or transliterated Latin Ecclesiam of Christ is not a -mother church who force feeds the children to make them believe what they teach is good for them and will save them.

It is duty or function of the entire Ekklesia or the Bride of Christ who altogether are to come together to all make decisions for self and for their future so they all must gather to hear what truth is on controversial doctrine and then they altogether must determine through polemic debate what truth is and then they altogether must with one voice declare the truth they accept as the bride of Christ (truth that edifies the entire congregation in the spiritual war against the gates of hell). 

It is not the church leaders who must decide what is to be taught in the Ecclesiam but the entire called out congregation of the (Ecclesiam)."

Ephesians  5:25  Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the Ekklesia, and gave himself for it;

 The Bride of Christ is the true Latin Ecclesiam of Christ is the called out people of God and the called out People are not the spiritual mother of self.    

All the called out disciples of Christ are what makes the true Ekklesia of Christ and we the entire call out Catholic or universal Christian world can not be our own mother.

It is true the leaders of the Roman Catholic Church leaders will dress  like mother  and they want to be mother over their disciples  and the church leaders will wear their clothing like mother  but in contrast they also want you to call them "Father."

Christ give us this warning to call no man your "father."  Mat 23:9  And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.

Just the opposite of the function of the  Ecclesiam of Christ the leaders of the Catholic  Church want to be the mother and to spoon feed their members their false doctrine (or dogma or instructions they claim to be from God).   The rulers of the Catholic church want to mother their members of the Catholic church so they have no rights to become the true  "Ecclesiam of Christ" or they have no choice to all be "called Out" and hear deliberated what truth is and the entire called out will never be allowed to make decisions for self.   The Members of the Catholic church have no choice to determined truth as church members and make their own choice for self what they should believe and what they must do to be saved.

Note carefully the "Ecclesiam of Christ" is not the mother of the members but the Ekklesia of Christ is the bride of Christ. Does the following teaching about the true Ekklesia of Christ sound to you like a mother or a bride -which?

Ephesians chapter 5 verse 25  Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the Ekklesia, and gave himself for it.

Rev 21:2  And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.

Rev 21:9  And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will shew thee the bride, the Lamb’s wife.

Revelation 22:17  And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.

On his visit to the United States Pope John Paul declares "You protestants churches want -too much to be like an Ecclesiam" (see Pope John Paul's visit to the United States on You Tube.) Why does it terrify or cause great concern for Pope John Paul for the Protestants  and the world of professing Christian that have now stopped being like a "church" and want "too much for pope John Paul" to return to become like the first Century true Greek "Ekklesia of Christ."  That fear of the Pope John Paul is that not only for the Protestant professing Christians  but also the fear that all the Catholics who love truth and they also want to return to become again the first Century Roman Catholic "Ecclesiam of Christ." 

Why is Pope John Paul so concern that some Catholics also want to stop being a "Church" and  return to become again like the first century the True Roman Catholic Latin "Ecclesiam of Christ?"  There is the truth loving Catholic that loves Christ and his truth above the Pope, above the Church and above any and all false teaching.

We will show the complete difference between the first century Roman Catholic "Ecclesiam of Christ" and then compare to the Roman Catholic  "Church of Christ." They are not the same people with the same purpose to altogether determine what true law or  doctrine is (dogma or instruction that is making the claim to be instructions from God). 

So what is the true Roman Latin Catholic (universal) "Ecclesiam of Christ?"
The Latin word Ecclesiam comes directly from the Greek word "Ekklesia." 

The Greeks in Athens Greece started the first "Ekklesia" ever to exist in the entire world.  Again take note we give true word definition that clearly describe the function or the true purpose and work of the Ekklesia in Athens is the same word definition as the Ekklesia of Christ.

In my exhaustive research of the ancient history of the Ekklesia of Christ, see Thayer’s Greek Lexicon which is one of the most reliable Greek Bible dictionaries for Bible words.  Thayer Lexicon gives the more correct and perfect word definition for the Greek Bible word "Ekklesia." Thayer's dictionary describes the Ekklesia of Christ is “an assembly of the people convened at the public place of council for the purpose of deliberating.” (“Deliberating” doctrine (instruction or law that makes the claim to be from God and is being contested by others, must be determined before the entire assembly through controlled polemic debate in the called out assembly.) [See J. H. Thayer, A Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament, page 196].

Question have you been added to the Ekklesia or the "Called out" of Christ?   If you have been called out and added to the Ekklesia of Christ, then why are your church rulers terrified of the function of the Ekklesia and why do they not allow you to hear doctrine being discussed in the entire called out Assembly?  Why have you been shut out of the Ekklesia and not allowed to make decisions of Doctrine (true instructions from God) for self and for the entire assembly?

Question How will you ever know the other side and then be allowed to make your own choice of true doctrine making the claim to be from God?   Now are you certain of what true organization that you are now in? Beware God has designed the choice for your salvation should never depend on the understanding of any other man or woman but the entire congregation is to be called out to make this most important decision of your eternal life or eternal hell.  Now notice God will allow you to be deceived.  Then God warns you not to allow others to deceive you.

Matt 24:4  And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.

Romans 16:18  For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple.

Ephesians  4:14  That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;

Eph 5:6  Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience.

Colossians  2:8  Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

Don't deceive self.
1Cor 3:18  Let no man deceive himself. If any man among you seemeth to be wise in this world, let him become a fool, that he may be wise.

To be in the Ecclesiam of Christ or in a Church of Christ they are not the same entity.  Does your church open your entire called out  assembly so the entire congregation can hear the other side of doctrine (dogma or instruction that is making the claim to be from God) and from others who reject what your church leaders are teaching? Unless you are a complete imbecile you should be allowed to hear the other side to make your choice of doctrine or instructions from God for your salvation and for all eternity.

The true Ekklesia of Christ requires that you  as one being called of God  must hear and then determine between two opposing doctrines  (Doctrine is meaning instructions taught that is making the claim to be from God)  of what the truth is.  You as one called out must call out your entire assembly and before your entire assembly hold polemic debate with those who oppose the -source of the doctrine or the instructions making the false claim to be from God. 

We beg you to please take careful note of the true word definition for the word “Church” does not correctly describe what the true word definition in the function or the purpose of the Ekklesia of Christ is to do. Then the false word “Church” is a horrendous false translated Bible word for the true word “Ekklesia” of Christ.

The “purpose” of deliberating in polemic debate [the law] is the true function of the Bible word “Ekklesia.” Then you question why is the word “Church” mistranslated and written in our translated Bibles?  The only purpose of the word “Church” was mistranslated in the Bible is to deceive you into accepting false doctrine (false instructions) from the disciples of Satan so they can deceive you without you having any recourse to discover what the true doctrine (instruction from God) or what the truth of doctrine the law of God is.  

The first Greek word "Ekklesia" ever to exist in the entire world was designed by the law giver Solan for the Greeks of Greece.  Men of the called out "Ekklesia" would gather to determine Law, doctrine, dogma or instruction in how to go to war against their enemies (their gates of hell).  All the men would be allowed to vote to determine the true  law given from the law giver Solan who they wanted only this new humane law giver to rule in his most humane law over them.  No one man such as a Pope or any group of men outside the majority of the  'Ekklesia" was allowed to determine what true law was for all the people.
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Now take careful note, word definition for the Greek word "Ekklesia" has not changed in over two thousand five hundred years. The first Ekklesia in Athens Greece only the men were allow to gather and to vote for what they understood to be true dogma  of the law. 

In the Ekklesia of Christ God has allowed both the women and the men to all be gathered and all are allowed to voice their vote to determine truth in doctrine (INSTRUCTIONS FROM GOD) for self.

 The first record we have of the Roman Catholic "Ekklesia" is when the apostle Paul wrote His classic letter to the Romans in the first Century.  See Strong's Greek word number 1577 ἐκκλησία Ekklesia ek-klay-see’-ah.

Now notice very carefully, the apostle Paul did not write to a Roman Catholic "Church of Christ" but the apostle Paul wrote to the Roman Catholic "Ekklesia of Christ."

If you allow us we are going to show you truth in the Catholic church history showing that for the first three hundred years the first Roman Catholic Christians did not identify self as a "Church" but the first Roman Christians identified themselves only as the Latin transliterated "Ecclesiam of Christ."  If you allow we are going to show you the truth that there is a world of difference in the true "Ekklesia of Christ" compared to a false cult of a Roman Catholic  "Church of Christ.'

 The Bible letter of the apostle Paul written through the Holy spirit to the Romans from the city of Corinthus.  Written in the letter to the Romans was written the Greek name of the "Ekklesia" to the Roman Catholics (the universal Ecclesiam in Rome).  The Latin transliterated name of the Roman Catholic Christians was the  "Ecclesiam of Christ."   This letter to the "Ekklesia" in Rome was sent by Phebe servant of the church at Cenchrea.

 Now notice very carefully, this is the true Bible translation of the actual words Paul used to write in the Greek to the Roman Latin's of the "Ecclesiam" in Rome. "  The Bible Greek word "Ekklesia" is written one hundred and eighteen (118) times in the New Testament.

The ancient Greek word "Circe" or  later over one thousand years has evolved to become what is now called a "church."  The word Church is not written just once in the entire ancient languages of the Bible.  Neither is there a word definition for the word "church" discover to be written just once in the entire Bible.  There is no word equivalent in the entire Bible for the English word as "Circe" or for circle worship made in a double round "Church."

 Then you question why is the false word "church" translated into my Bible?  This false Bible translation of the false word 'church" is made with only one purpose to deceive the entire Christian world. 

In contrast to "Ekklesia of Christ" the pagan word "Circe" or  later evolved to be a "church"  the word definition for the word "Circe or later to become a "Church" is not written just once in the entire ancient languages of the Bible.
  Now take careful note, the word "Circe" or "Church" is not written just once in the Roman Catholic Latin Vulgate of their Bible.  So if the word "church is not written in the first Bible records or the word "Church" is not written in first translated Bible of the Romans Catholic Ecclesiam, who is trying to deceive who?  So for your salvation you must make this very serious Bible study and discover for what reason would anyone want to remain any part of any kind of any "Church?"  The infinite God of the Bible did not establish any kind of a "church."  So if God did not establish a Church" who has established your "church?"

Paul wrote to the Roman Christians in the book of  Romans 16:1  I commend unto you Phebe our sister, which is a servant of the Ekklesia which is at Cenchrea…

Now take very careful note of the true words of Christ after Peter (Petros) has confessed to Christ that "you are the Christ the son of the living God"  in Matthew chapter 16 verse

18  And I say also unto thee, That thou art Petros [a little rock], and upon this Petra [The fact that Petros said that I am the son of God, that Petra is the great unconqurable mountain fortress] I will edify my Ekklesia; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. [[amplifying in brackets is mine.] 

The Greek word "Petros" is meaning only a little "rock."   The Greek word "Petra" is understood in the first century to be a great mountain fortress that all the mightiest armies of the world could not conquer this solid rock mountain fortress of  "Petra."  Christ is saying, as you have stated Peter that "I am the son of the living God,"  I as the son of God have my metaphorical "bride the Ekklesia" safe within me the great mount fortress of "Petra."  Upon this fact that I am the son of God I who am the Petra (a great mountain fortress that can not be conquered by any army).  In this awesome mountain fortress I will edify my Ekklesia and the gates of Hades (Hell) will not prevail against me who is the awesome Petra (the unconquerable mountain fortress).

All know that to edify in the Ekklesia of Christ is a spiritual fight to learn what truth is through polemic debate before all the called out assembly.  The spiritual fight is against false doctrine or false instruction that makes the false claim to be true doctrine or the Latin "Dogma" (instruction making the claim to be from God or from God the law giver).

In this true Bible transliteration of Matthew chapter 16 verse 18, do you see the false pagan word "church" or do you see the true Bible word "Ekklesia?" If you do -not see the word "Ekklesia" or the Latin word "Ecclesiam" in your Bible but instead you see  the false word "church" in your Bible then my friend you have a false translated Bible. 

The apostle Paul wrote in Romans 16:5  Likewise greet the Ekklesia that is in their house. Salute my well beloved Epaenetus, who is the firstfruits of Achaia unto Christ.

In this true Bible transliteration mentioned above, do you see the false word "church" or do you see the true Bible word "Ekklesia?   If you do not see the word "Ekklesia" or the Latin word "Ecclesiam" translated in your Bible you have a false translated Bible. 

Romans 16:23  Gaius mine host, and of the whole Ekklesia, saluteth you. Erastus the chamberlain of the city saluteth you, and Quartus a brother.

In this true Bible transliteration, do you see the false pagan word "church" or do you see the true Bible word "Ekklesia?"     If you do not see the word "Ekklesia" or the Latin word "Ecclesiam" translated in your Bible you have a false translated Bible. 

Now there is a world of translated Bibles that have the false pagan word "church" translated in their Bibles.  If you will only make this Bible study to learn the world of difference in the functions between  the Greek word "Ekklesia" and the Greek word "Circe" or "Church" you will immediately see the great difference in word definition.  The Ekklesia of Christ is not a Church of Christ.  God did not start a "church" so who but the Catholic church has started yours. 

Romans 16:27  To God only wise, be glory through Y'esus Christ for ever. Amen.
In this true transliteration, in your translated Bible do you see in the above the true transliterated name of the Christ "Y'esus" or do you see the false pagan name of "Jesus." The blasphemous name "Jesus" was first given to the Christ by the Roman Catholic church and is not written just once in the entire ancient languages of the Bible?

The true transliterated phonetic name "Y'esus" is written exactly precisely as is stated above some nine hundred and seventy five (975) times in the New Testament.

The false name given to the Christ by the Catholic church is the false blasphemous name "Jesus" pronounced in the English as "GEZ-US." Know this fact for Certain the false name "Jesus" is not written just once in the entire ancient languages of the Bible.   How important that we write and speak the true name of Christ is a subject we brethren must address but not in this article.  Know this fact in the entire ancient languages of the Bible there is no phonetic sound of the letter "J."  The Letter "J" was added to the English alphabet only in the seventeenth century.

But you say my Bible does not have the word "Ekklesia" or the true name of the Christ written by the true phonetic name of "Y'esus."   My friend if you do not see written in your Bible the word "Ekklesia" or for Catholics the Latin  "Ecclesiam" you have a mistranslated Bible and when you read in your Bible and see the word "church" or the word "Jesus" you are seeing the most classic deception ever made against God and against would be Christians.

How well do you know Catholic Church History? Do you as a Catholic know this fact that there was a time from the first to the fourth Century when all Roman Catholics in the entire world were only identified only as the Roman Latin "Ecclesiam of Christ."

 Not once in the first three hundred years was the name "Church" ever mentioned to belong to Christ as the bride of Christ.  The Circe, Cirche or Church only belongs to the mother Goddess Circe who was the mother of all round things. 

Now take careful notice. Christ declares
John 4:22  Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.

If you want to be saved then your source of instructions from God must come only from the first century Jews.  Do you want to be certain that you will be saved?  Then you must  hear only what the New Testament Jews have written for your "salvation." 

How long and how many times will the New Testament be written? The Bible writer Jude declares the Word or the Faith which is law of God is to be written only once and Christ and the Apostle Paul gives this warning that the salvation of God comes only through the Jews and not the pope or the teaching made by any church.
 
Jude 3   Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write to you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write to you, and exhort you that you should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered to the saints.

The "Faith of God is "the Law of God" the Greek word Nomos.  Faith or the Greek Nomos of God is the law of God given only once or only one time and Christ said salvation was given only through the Jews.

Romans chapter 3 verse 27  Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? No: but by the law of faith.

"Faith" From God is written only "once" through only the Jews is the entire "substance" which is the "Faith" or the Greek word "Nomos" or the "law" of God that gives us hope.

Hebrews chapter 11 verse 1 ¶  Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.

We can only please God to be saved only through "law" or "the Faith of God" that is  given only "once" through the Jews that gives us hope.  Then to have any other source of "Faith," "doctrine"  "law" or instructions from a different god, it would be impossible to please God.

Hebrew chapter 11 verse 6  But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that comes to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.
Question just how much time do you seek God to know what His truth is  so in obedience to truth God can reward you with His eternal salvation?

It is the source of the "Faith" which is God giving the "Doctrine or law from God" or the instructions from God which was delivered to the Saints of God only Once in the entire history of the Christian world. 

Notice very carefully, anyone who delivers a new "Faith' or  new "Law" or a new doctrine, (New instructions claiming to be from  God) such as the "Catholic Catechism," "the book of Mormon," the Gospel writer Jude declares that we must "Earnestly contend" or hold "polemic debate" in the called out Assembly (Ekklesia) which is controlled aggressive deliberations to discover which writings have the true source of doctrine or instructions from God. Then after all the people have heard both side of doctrine is being deliberated, the entire assembly will make judgment to determine what true doctrine (instruction from God) is.

The Catholic church today dare not return to be become once again the true Ecclesiam of Christ as she was called for over the first three hundred years.  She dare not again open their assemblies to polemic debate with those who oppose their false teaching and allow all their church members to discover and then decide for self what is the true source of doctrine (instructions from God), for fear the church leaders would be exposed through polemic debate as digressive false teachers.

The oracles of God is the doctrine or the instruction from God.  Be careful whom you choose to give you the true oracles or the instruction from God in what and in how we are to be Saved.
The apostle Paul wrote;
Romans chapter 3 verse 1 ¶  What advantage then has the Jew? or what profit is there of circumcision?
2  Much every way: chiefly, because that to them were committed the oracles of God.

If you do not get your "oracles of God" or the instructions in how to be saved from the writings of the first century Jews, then you can not possibly know how to be saved. 

Today the leaders of the Catholic church would not dare open their assembly to polemic debate the source of their false "Doctrine" (again doctrine is the instructions they claim to be from God.)   The modern Roman Catholic church  dare not open their whole assembly as the true Ecclesiam  did in their beginning of the first Century when the First Roman Catholics first identified themselves as the true Roman Catholic "Ecclesiam of Christ."
Most Catholics today do not so much as know or have they ever heard the word "Ecclesiam."  Most modern Roman Catholics do not so much as have the foggiest understanding of the first Roman Catholics that were not called a "church" but in their beginning of the first Century the Roman Catholics were at their first identified only as the true "Ecclesiam of Christ." 

 The true definition of the name "The Roman Catholic Ecclesiam" was to identify a militant and aggressive spiritual war like group of Latin Roman people who in their first to the third century they would called out their assemblies to show to the world they had the only true source of their doctrine that comes only from writings of the Old Testament and  New Testament doctrine which is coming strictly and only from the teachings of the Christ and the apostles.  In their beginning of the Roman Catholic "Ecclesiam" there was no preferred new Bible called "Roman Catechism" that made the original writings and teachings of Christ and  the Apostles obsolete to promote a new Roman Catholic "Church.

For any teaching that is to be identified as  "Ecclesiastical" is controversial doctrine (law or instructions that is making the claim to be from God) and those "Ecclesiastical" instruction  is to be determined only by vote by all the people of the Roman Catholics as the called out Ecclesiam coming together and all the people voting to make the decision of what is to be accepted as true doctrine (or true Instructions) from God.  

Any doctrine that is understood to be accepted "ecclesiastical" as true instructions from God must be debated before all the People of the Catholic Church through the Latin "Ecclesiam" before any teaching becomes true law from God.   Now you should be able to see why Pope John Paul is worried that the Protestants are becoming too much like the "Ecclesiam" for fear the Catholic people also may also want to return and once again become like the first century true Roman Catholic Ecclesiam of Christ.

For doctrine (or dogma) to be Ecclesiastical the entire called out congregation must hear doctrine debated and all decide  for self what is true doctrine or law of God for self.

There has not been anything that is law or doctrine (instruction that make the claim to be from God) of the Catholic church that has been determined "Ecclesiastical"  through the acts or the function of polemic debate before all the called out Assembly of  the Roman Catholic Ecclesiam (by the entire called out Ecclesiam) for over one thousand seven hundred years.  As a member of the Catholic Church, you must determine truth why has all the people of the Catholic church not been allowed to be a true "Ecclesiam of Christ" and why has the entire members of the Catholic church have not been able to hear doctrine of God through polemic debates,  to determine true "ecclesiastical doctrine" (true Instructions from God) for near two thousands years?

Over heard is a Catholic Priest saying "We are the first and the only true Church?" Overheard next is a very ignorant protestant who speaks up and says "No you are not the first Church, we are the first and the only true Church.  Thousands of Churches with thousands of opposing church doctrines are saying "we are the only true Church." 
So who started the first church ever to exist on this planet earth?  Do you know for certain -Who started your Church?

In all over seventy five years of Bible study and over forty years from the ancient language of the Bible, I speak the truth that the protestants or any one outside the Catholic church is nothing less than ignorant of the facts when they think that their church is the first or the true "Church" ever to exist -before the Roman Catholic Church.
 
The Roman Catholic church is the first "true Church" ever to exist on this planet earth.  Be careful a "church" is not the Latin "true Ecclesiam of Christ." A "Church" is not anything like is transliterated in the English as "the true Ekklesia of Christ." 

 If the person either a Catholic or a protestant or others are humble and honest, then we can very easily prove to the protestant or any other group that the Catholic church is the first church ever to exist on this planet earth.  We can prove to ANY HUMBLE AND HONEST PERSON by not only from the ancient languages of the Bible but from the very well written history of the Catholic church, the many books of ancient History PRE Nicene, Nicene and post Nicene Fathers is a history of the church written only by members of the Catholic church.  The Pope and all Catholic leaders do not hide the fact that they are no longer the true Ecclesiam of Christ, but now are only what is called the "Church."  The "Ecclesiam" of all the called out people is no longer allowed by the Pope and all the rulers of the Catholic Church are to determine for selves through polemic debate before the entire called out assembly true doctrine from God.

Today you hear the world wide argument of each church making the claim they are the first Church and each church stating that they are the only true Church.  After some forty years in a study of the ancient languages of the Bible and thousands of hours in historical study of world church history, there is no doubt the Catholic church is telling us the truth they are the very first true Church ever to exist on this planet earth. Anyone who is so ignorant to say that the Catholic church is not the first church ever to exist on this planet earth, either they have not made this study from the ancient languages of the Bible or they are just plain refusing to accept the facts.  

The leaders and teachers of the Catholic church are telling us the Truth, they are the first church ever to exist on this planet Earth. 

We can easily prove from the ancient world history recorded by the Catholic church that in the first to the fourth Century there was no such word used by "Christian" as the "Circe  of Christ" which name "Circe" is later evolved to be named the derivative of the Roman Catholic "Church of Christ" as is written in her Catechism. 

Now notice very carefully, In the -first to the fourth century  all the Roman Christians identified themselves as the Roman Catholic "Ecclesiam of Christ."  The ancient word definition for the first Roman Catholic  "Ecclesiam of Christ" is not the same word meaning as The Roman Catholic "Circe" which most ancient name "Circe" has evolved over the centuries to become the modern Roman Catholic  "Church of Christ."

Beginning in the First century all Christian only identified their Christian organization as the "Ekklesia of Christ.  The first to the early part of the fourth century all the Latin Romans identify themselves only as the Latin "Ecclesiam of Christ."

Do you fully understand this fact, in the beginning the Roman Catholic Ecclesiam to the fourth century there was no such name as a "Roman Catholic church" but in the beginning of the Roman Christians  there was only the name Roman Catholic "Ecclesiam of Christ."  The transliterated Bible Latin name "Ecclesiam" is the Roman Latin transliteration of the Bible Greek "Ekklesia" translated from Matthew chapter 16 verse 18. (See this truth from the Latin Vulgate transliterated from the Vatican Codex by ("Saint") Jerome in the fourth century and see other earlier Latin Bible transliterations of the name "Ecclesiam of Christ.")

So what is the world of difference between the Latin Catholic Ecclesiam of Christ to the Latin fourth century Catholic "Circe" or "Church of Christ." We will give you the most precise and exact word definition from the most trusted Bible Dictionary or Lexicon by Henri Thayer for the true purpose or the function of what the "called out" or the Roman Catholic "Ecclesiam" of Christ" is designed by God to do. Now if you are a Catholic who loves only the truth notice very carefully what the true word definition is being given by one of the worlds most trusted Bible dictionary.

The Bible Greek "Ekklesia" or the Catholic Latin transliterated "Ecclesiam" is “An assembly of the people convened at the public place of council for the purpose of deliberating.” [“Deliberating” is controlled aggressive polemic debate in the called out assembly] [see J. H. Thayer, A Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament, see page. 196].

What? The first Roman Catholic Christians were at first called the true "Ecclesiam of Christ" and they were a very militant called out group of people who opened their "Called Out" Assemblies of all the members to hear polemic debate on matters to prove the true source of Doctrine (law or instructions from God) is clearly taught by Christ and clearly written through the Holy spirit by the apostles and Bible writers.

This is the exact true word definition for a through study of ancient History the first Ekklesia ever to exist on earth was in Athens Greek in the fifty century B.C.E.   In over  two thousand years the original word definition for the Greek word "Ekklesia" has never changed.  A Roman Catholic "Ecclesiam"  is a militant group of Christian people that will open their called out assembly to polemic debate and compare their doctrine of the Ecclesiam to what is written in the Bible. 

On controversial matters of the doctrine or instruction from God, the entire Catholic assembly was to be "Called out" so the whole assembly can hear and all together the entire membership of the "Ecclesiam" can decide for themselves through deliberation in polemic debate which teacher has the true source of "Doctrine" or  true "instructions from God." Think in all humility and reasonable, does this function of the true Latin Catholic Ecclesiam of Christ appear to you to be reasonable and honest?

So why is the Pope and all the Catholic church leaders today so terrified of calling out the entire Catholic assembly to debate doctrine with those who oppose the source as "being copied from the ancient pagans" the catholic church Doctrine? 

Why are the rulers of the Roman Catholic church chosen to remain a "church cult" and why are they so terrified to return and become the ancient Roman Catholic Ecclesiam and open their assemblies to publicly defend the source of their church doctrine before all their people?

The first to the third century Roman Catholic Ecclesiam of Christ were not afraid to open their assemblies to allow all the people to determine truth of the true doctrine of God and their destiny! Does the fear of Catholic Church who chooses to remain a church "cult" not show that they secretly have something in truth that is terrifying and most dreadful to hide from all their people?  What are the Cultic leaders of the Catholic church afraid of?

"Constantine changed the name of the Roman Catholic "Ecclesiam" to the Roman Catholic "Church." (see article "Who Started Your church" at this web site www.biblementor.com )

For only one reason Constantine in the early fourth century changed the name of the Roman Catholic  "Ecclesiam of Christ to a Roman Catholic  "Circe"  or to the name the Catholic Church of Christ".   To change the name of "Ecclesiam"  to a "Circe" or to a Church of Christ" removes word definition of the function or the purpose of what an "Ecclesiam of Christ" is called out to do. 

The true function or the purpose of the first called out Roman Catholic  "Ecclesiam of Christ" is designed by God to protect through polemic debate the source of doctrine or the instructions from God for the kingdom of God.  Doctrine is the instructions from God the Father, Christ and the Holy spirit which was given only "once" through the Jews to the entire world.

In Pope John Paul's trip to the United States, Pope John Paul declared to the world, you protestants want too much to be like the "Ecclesiam" (see You Tube the visit of John Paul to the U.S.A.).  How much is "too much?"   First of all for Pope John Paul to make judgment that there are "Protestants" who want  "too much to be like an Ecclesiam" is showing that Pope John Paul knows precisely what the true function or purpose of the  "Ecclesiam of Christ" is designed by our God to function or to do.

 Now notice very carefully, If, (is only a little word but a great qualifier). "If"  in the first to the third century the name of the Roman Catholic "Ecclesiam of Christ" was not changed to a "Circe" or a "Church" The modern Catholic Church and her false church doctrine would not exist. 

This is church history you can discover from historical records made by the most ancient Catholic church.  The name of a "Christian" "Circe' or "church" did not exist to be any part of Christ before the fourth century.  The name "Circe" Pronounced "Kir-kee" in the English, is a Greek name of a Greek Fertility goddess and a sexual nymphomaniac that was written in the stories of Homer's Odyssey some seven to nine hundred years before the coming of the Christ. Men of the Greeks, the Romans and the Celts (English) worshipped the pagan goddess "Circe" the mother goddess of all round things.  "Circe" was worshipped in a double round building made with the smaller apse facing the east.  The holy double round building called a "Circe" or a "church"  that was joined together to make the sacred house of worship to the goddess "Circe."  

 In the fourth century when the emperor Constantine changed for the state of the Roman Empire, the name of the Roman Catholic Latin name of "The Ecclesiam of Christ" was changed to the new name of the Roman Catholic in the Latin  "the Circe of Christ." 

Many centuries later the name "Circe" would later evolve or will be adapted to become the derivative directly from the Latin Roman Catholic "Church of Christ." Today there are thousands of different  churches that continue to wear the pagan name "Circe"   which is pronounced in the English as "Kir-kee."  

There would not have ever been a so called "Roman Catholic Church of Christ" if Constantine had not changed the name of the Roman Latin Catholic "Ecclesiam" of Christ" to a "Circe of Christ" in the fourth century.   To understand the difference between the true Latin "Ecclesiam of Christ" to the true "church of Christ," to completely understand what was just stated, we must study  church history of the ancient Roman Catholic "Ecclesiam of Christ” to be able to see there is a world of difference in the false claim to be the Roman Catholic "Church of Christ" when compared to the most ancient Roman Catholic Latin "Ecclesiam of Christ,".

Pope John Paul shows that he must know the history of the first Catholic Ecclesiam of Christ that existed in the Roman empire long before there ever was a Roman Catholic "Church of Christ." The true Bible Greek word "Ekklesia of Christ" is not a "church of Christ" and it never was.

The emperor Constantine in the early fourth century had his very special reason to change the Latin name the Roman Catholic Ecclesiam of Christ to the new name of the Roman Latin name of "the Circe or church of Christ."  To remain the true Ecclesiam of Christ, it would be impossible for the emperor Constantine to change doctrine of the true Ecclesiam or  join or wed his Pagan church doctrines to Bible doctrine.

For The Ruler Constantine to change instruction from God (doctrine) he would have to change the true name of the Ecclesiam to a "Circe" or "church," because the word Church has a complete different word definition from the Ecclesiam.  In the Ecclesiam of Christ designed by God for the entire congregation of God is to make the decision of true source of doctrine.

There was something terrifying  Pope John Paul and all the popes and all the Catholic leaders dread more than anything, is the day when all the members of the Catholic church demand they return to become the first century Roman Catholic "true Ecclesiam of Christ."

The Pope and the leaders of the Catholic church fear that all their protestant daughter churches will stop being called the Church daughters of the Catholic church and all churches return again to become the true "Ekklesia of Christ."   This will happen when all protestant Churches return to become true "Ekklesia of Christ" for a good reason and such a thought completely terrifies all those leaders of the Roman Catholic Church who know true word definition for the scriptural Ekklesia of Christ.

All church leaders of ever kind of church in the entire world are terrified of his church returning to become the true Ekklesia of Christ. To be an Ekklesia takes control away from a few church leaders and give control to all the people as is designed  by Christ.   All the church leaders of all churches must face facts and open their assemblies to polemic debate on their doctrines (Instruction they make the claim to be from God).      

Pope John Paul and all Roman Catholic church leaders dread more than anything when their own Catholic Church members learn what truth is and then all members of the Catholic church demand that they also want to return to their roots and become again the true Latin Roman Catholic (Universal)  "Ecclesiam of Christ."   

Time is beginning now when all members of the Catholic church want to return to be the true Latin "Ecclesiam of Christ" that was first established by Christ in the first Century.  Already thousands are making this Bible study about the difference between the Bible Ecclesiam of Christ and the false word "Church" of Christ.  The first true Roman Catholic the Latin Ecclesiam of Christ existed in the Roman empire for up to three hundred years by the name of the "Ecclesiam of Christ" only to be changed by Constantine to a pagan blasphemous name of "Circe" and to later become the blasphemous pagan word "Church." 

Pope John Paul and all Catholic church leaders know that if the Catholic Church repents of becoming a pagan cult of a "church" and starts to identify self again as the Latin "Ecclesiam of Christ" by the very word definition of the word "Ekklesia" when they return to become the true Catholic (universal) Ecclesiam of Christ, they must first begin to open their "Called Out" assemblies to polemic debate with those who oppose the  source of their very different "church" doctrines.  (Church doctrines are the instructions they are making the claim to be from God).  Then after returning to become the true  Roman Catholic "Ecclesiam of Christ"  all the thousands of daughter "churches" will demand that the Catholic church must also call out their entire assembly to hear and to defend before all their congregation any charge of false teaching against the Catholic church.

To return and become the true Latin "Ecclesiam of Christ" the entire Catholic church  would also be forced to open their assemblies to polemic debate on their false church doctrines and as the true "Ekklesia of Christ" they would eventually again become the first true Roman Catholic (Universal) The Bible Greek "Ekklesia of Christ." 

Written in the New Testament Christ declares The spiritual war like-function" or the true -Purpose of the "Ekklesia of Christ" is to allow -all  note carefully "all" the called out members are to determine for self and to separate true source of Doctrine or Law (instruction from God) from the false teaching of "the gates of hell."  The Roman Latin word "Ecclesiam of Christ" is translated into the Latin Bibles from the Bible Greek word "Ekklesia" (see Matthew chapter 16 verse 8). 

 For near two thousand years all members of the true  Roman Catholic the Latin "Ecclesiam of Christ" are allowed to come together to hear Doctrine the (instruction from God) and all the Ecclesiam are allowed to vote to make their choice of what they believe truth of God is. The Church does not allow the function of the true Ecclesiam or all members to determine for self  what truth in doctrine or dogma is for their eternal life.

The Greek "Ekklesia of Christ" is designed for all the called out men and also the women to be able to hear through polemic debate the law given from the law giver and then all members of the called out Ecclesiam have the right to be able to choose for self what they understand to be the true source of law or doctrine (INSTRUCTION THAT THE TEACHER IS MAKING THE CLAIM TO BE FROM GOD.) 

In the true "Ecclesiam of Christ" you as an intelligent human have been given from God the same ability to understand doctrine or law as any other man or woman. You as a Christian Student (disciple of Christ) are not to allow any man or any group of men or women to determine what you understand truth to be. Because you have been given the ability by your creator God to understand and to make Judgment for self about law (dogma) when studied by you or presented by a knowledgeable Bible Student before the entire called out assembly,

God has designed His Ekklesia for you to make judgment for self and you have the right to make judgment and to choose for self what you understand truth to be. 

The word definition in the function of the word "church" does not allow polemic debates in the called out assembly to determine doctrine or law for all professing Christians.  

The "church" is not designed the same as the true "Ekklesia of Christ" to allow all members to be called out in one place and let all members hear both sides of doctrine being deliberated (through Polemic Debate).   The church is not designed  like the true "Ekklesia of Christ" to allow all the members of the Church to vote to make decisions for self to the true source of doctrine (instruction that is making the claim to be from God) is either from God or from the disciples of Satan.  

Now you should be able to see why Pope John Paul is so concerned that thousands of "Churches" are now returning to become the true "Ekklesia of Christ."  Not only that but members of the Catholic church are beginning to see that they have been fooled for over one thousand seven hundred years by being forced to allow only the Ecumenical Council and only one church leader (the Pope) to decide for self what doctrine (Instructions the church leaders are making the claim to be from God).  All the Catholic church members are being forced to accept only their  authority without the ability to hear the other side of Doctrine and then make the decision for self what truth is for their salvation.

Just who are these protestant churches and others of the Catholic church who have stopped calling themselves "The Church of Christ" and are now returning to become the one true "Ekklesia or the Latin Ecclesiam of Christ" and causing great concern for the Pope John Paul?

So what is an Ecclesiam and why is the Pope John Paul so concerned and why is he terrified that the protestants may cause all the Catholic people to also want too much "to be like the most hated first true Roman Catholic "Ecclesiam of Christ?" 

The Latin Word Ecclesiam is first discovered to be written in the oldest translated Bible of the Romans Catholic Church and also in the Roman Catholic "Ecclesiam."   In Matthew Chapter 16 verse 18 of the Latin Vulgate the of the most ancient Roman Catholic church and the Ecclesiam. The Latin Vulgate was translated out of the Vatican Codex by saint Jerome in the later part of the fourth century.

There were other Latin Bible translations of the book of Matthew long before Jerome but all translations read with the same word "Ecclesiam" (the same as Jerome's transliteration of Matthew chapter 16 verse 18).

After the first three hundred years the name of the Roman Catholic "Ecclesiam of Christ" was changed by the Roman emperor Constantine into the Greek name of "Circe" pronounced in the Greek as "Kir-kee."  Learn the truth about the first "church" named after the  Greek fertility  goddess "Circe."  The Greek fertility goddess "Circe" was a sexual nymphomaniac, the mother of all round things and the Greeks, the Romans and the Celts (English) men would go to the "Circe" to worship. The "Circe" was the name of their holy double round building the floor plan made in a double circle to worship the goddess "Circe."

The first Church or "Circe" ever was a place of worship made in a double round building. The Greek goddess of round things named  the "Circe of Christ" or later to become a "church of Christ" first translated as a "Chirche" by the first English Wycliffe Bible translation in the late fourteenth century.

 To prove this fact to yourself please research the change in the name "Ecclesiam" to a "Church" and go and read the first Roman Catholic translated Latin Bible, the Latin Vulgate Matthew chapter 16 verse 18.

For those who do not know how to find the Latin Vulgate I will copy word for word here the true Latin transliteration word for word from the Greek Vatican Codex Bible into the Latin Vulgate by the Catholic Church Bible translator ("Saint") Jerome.  So you can see and know for certain that the first Roman Catholics were in the first to the fourth century first named the true Roman Catholic Latin "Ecclesiam of Christ."

Take careful note, in the fourth century this correct translation of Jerome is written in the translation from out of the Greek copy the Vatican Codex into the Catholic Latin Vulgate Bible.

 Note carefully the transliteration of the Latin word “Ecclesiam” in the Latin Vulgate Matthew chapter 16 verse 18  Latin- et ego dico tibi quia tu es Petrus et super hanc petram aedificabo ecclesiam [Ecclesiam] meam et portae inferi non praevalebunt adversum eam [amplifying Red in brackets is mine.] 

 Now look at the -false English Bible translation into the English in all the English Bibles of the modern Catholic church- “And I say to thee: That thou art Peter; and upon this rock I will build my Church, and the gats of hell shall not prevail against it. 

 Now why do you think Pope John Paul and other leaders of the Catholic church are so concerned or terrified for their members to learn the truth about the True Roman Catholic Ecclesiam of Christ written in their Roman Latin Vulgate Bible.  What would happen to the Catholic church and all other "churches in the entire world, if every Roman Catholic who is professing to be a Christian, and all other members of  churches decided to return to become the first century true Ecclesiam of Christ that is written in their Latin Vulgate Bible.  It would be the end of the churches in the entire world and all professing Christians would once again be the one true Ekklesia of Christ.  There would no longer be a "Pope" because in the true Ecclesiam of Christ only Christ is the head of the Ecclesiam.  It would be the end of the order of celebrants of the so called one man rule of "Pastors" or ruling priests because  all Christians are priests and Saints. 


In the entire world most all church leaders are terrified of the Greek word "Ekklesia of Christ" because the true "Ekklesia of Christ" takes control out of the hands of a few and gives the entire called out Congregation of the Christian people the control of their own destiny.  

Catholic Church leaders do not want you to begin to return and to identify self as the true  “Ecclesiam” of Christ that is clearly written in their Latin Vulgate Bible? Why warn and hate the Christians who choose to change their name from a 'church" back to the true first century "Ecclesiam of Christ?" Why try and force all professing Christian  to identify self only as is written in their Catechism as only a “Church of Christ?” Today what is written as “the church of Christ” the Catechism  supercedes what God  has written only through the Jews as the Ekklesia of Christ.

You must learn why the leaders of the Catholic church have  changed the name of the true Catholic "Ecclesiam of Christ" to the pagan name of the ancient fertility goddess "Circe of Christ"  which will later become a "Church of Christ."

God  gives this warning to stop being "churches" and to return to become the first Century  Greek "Ekklesia" or the Roman  Latin "Ecclesiam." 

Re 18:4  And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

2Co 6:17  Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,

In the ancient written record of the Bible, God gave us His prerequisites (something given as being absolutely necessary before hand) as every step needed to "Come out of her" and stop being a "church" and return to become once again the true first century true Ekklesia of Christ. Do not do these prerequisites because I say so, but do these commands because it is our God who gives us these commands that are clearly written in our New covenant with our God.

The "Ekklesia of Christ " is not a "church."

 The infinite God of Creation Commands all men everywhere which is written clearly are as follows.
1) First convert or change self by making the heart (the seat of emotion) "humble self' as a little Child that loves only what truth is proven to be.

Matthew chapter 18 verse 1 ¶  At the same time came the disciples unto Y'esus, saying, Who is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven? 

2  And Y'esus called a little child unto him, and set him in the midst of them, 3  And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven. 4  Whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, the same is greatest in the kingdom of heaven.

I am somewhat reluctant to tell this story but it actually did happen.  Standing on the sidewalk out side my home early one morning.  Two young brothers who were both baptized as infants into the Catholic church. The older child is about twelve the other younger is about five or six.   Riding their skate boards they both stopped to talk to me. there was no airplane overhead but I Looked up and ask the to boys; can you see that big airplane flying over head (only dummies can not see that airplane).

 The older child immediately said I can see that airplane. 

The younger boy replied "I can not see any airplane."

The I said can you see that little fly that is holding on to that air plane.

Then the older boy immediately said "I can see that fly." 

The younger boy said "I Can't even see the airplane."
The  case of this child like humility that admits "I can not see that, neither will I as the humble in child like humility accept what I can not see that is a lie.

Multitudes of Adults are deceived and in their deceit they think that they see God having a "church" when the truth is God does not establish a "Church." God only has established His Ekklesia or as is written in the Latin Vulgate Bible of  His Roman Latin Catholic Bible the  "Ecclesiam."

2)  Use the tools that God has given you to discover what truth is and to come out of her.  Search only in the scriptures to discover what is written and hear only what our God commands us to do. Christ taught  Matt 11:15  He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.

To know that we are "The spiritual dead" in humility we will want to hear or to "Hear" is meaning to accept what is spoken or written so we might be made spiritual alive and have life in God.  John 5:25  Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live.


3)  Our God commands us to "believe" and to come out of her.   So what is belief? A believer is an over comer. First John chapter 5 verse  5  Who is he that overcomes the world, but he that believeth that Y'esus is the Son of God?

ONLY THE ONE WHO OVER COMES IS THE BELIEVER IN GOD.

  John 8:24  I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.

To be the true believer in God, the believer must overcome by producing truth in action.
Note -The first time God commands Moses to get water for the people to use his rod to hit or smite the rock to get water.
Ex 17:6  Behold, I will stand before thee there upon the rock in Horeb; and thou shalt smite the rock, and there shall come water out of it, that the people may drink. And Moses did so in the sight of the elders of Israel.


Note the second time God command Moses to get water for the people "speak to a different "Rock" on a different occasion when the people are in a great need for water..
   Numbers chapter  20 verse 8  God commands Moses this time;  Take the rod, and gather thou the assembly together, thou, and Aaron thy brother, and speak ye unto the rock before their eyes; and it shall give forth his water, and thou shalt bring forth to them water out of the rock: so thou shalt give the congregation and their beasts drink.

Numbers 20:10  And Moses and Aaron gathered the congregation together before the rock, and he said unto them, Hear now, ye rebels; must we fetch you water out of this rock?
And Moses lifted up his hand, and with his rod he smote the rock twice:  11 and the water came out abundantly, and the congregation drank, and their beasts also.
12  And the LORD spake unto Moses and Aaron, Because ye believed me not, to sanctify me in the eyes of the children of Israel, therefore ye shall not bring this congregation into the land which I have given them.

 Now notice Moses thought that he truly "believed" in God.  God commands Moses to take his  rod or staff and speak to the Rock to get Water.  Moses went onward and he did not obey God exactly as he commanded but Moses did more than God commanded "speak to the Rock" but Moses also hit the rock two times with his staff. Moses said "We" or I  my brother Aaron are giving you Water,    Moses did not do exactly as God commands him to do. God in his anger said to Moses that Moses did not "sanctify" or "believe" Him.  For this one sin of unbelief Moses was not allowed to enter "The Promised Land." Do you fully understand this principle of what make a true believer in God is by the very word  given very clearly. by our God.   Do not go beyond what God has commanded us to do in the New covenant (agreement) He has written. 

Be careful to become a true believer in God!

4)  Begin to Confess or begin to teach only truth in Christ. So what is true Confession of Christ.
To speak in "Confessing Christ" is not telling some one your past sins but telling some one truth of Christ.  Confessing Christ  is telling some one of your true belief in Christ.    See the Greek homonym word where the context must determine word definition see Strong's Greek word number 3670 homologeo hom-ol-og-eh’-o.  Word definition of Homologeo from the theological dictionary of New Testament word is; Confession is 3670 ὁμολογέω homologeo hom-ol-og-eh’-o from a compound of the base 1) to say the same thing as another, i.e. to agree with, assent
2) to concede
2a) not to refuse, to promise
2b) not to deny
2b1) to confess
2b2) declare
2b3) to confess, i.e. to admit or declare one’s self guilty of what one is accused of.

Matt 10:32  Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven.

Romans 10:10  For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

5) God command us to "To Repent" and to come out of her; as a prerequisite our God command us that we must "Repent" or "turn around." We must put on the hearts to repent from sinning against our God. It becomes our first duty to study to discover all things that we must repent from or turn around from.  

6)  Christ commands that we are to come out and to be separate Romans 12:2  And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.  We must be "buried" or immersed in Water or to be Baptized unto the remission of our sins (Rom. 6:3-5). 

The great question is what is the first true Roman Catholic  "Ecclesiam of Christ" that Pope John Paul has in his reference? Why does it concern and terrify Pope John Paul that a world of  Christians want to come out of the Roman Catholic "Church" to return to become just like the first century true Roman Catholic "Ecclesiam of Christ."

Who in the Catholic Church has ever heard of the first century "Ecclesiam of Christ" that is discovered to be Translated and written in the first Roman Latin Vulgate Bible translations of the first century.

The first century Roman Catholic Ecclesiam of Christ was the most hated underground movement of Roman Christians that were first established in the first century by Christ through his resurrection moment. In the same first century Roman Latin Bible the resurrection of the Christ declares he resurrected at "early yet it was dark" (John 20:1) on the night of day one of "Day One of seven day solar Sabbaton (Matthew 28:1).   In the first century the first Roman Catholic Latin  "Ecclesiam of Christ" in the Roman empire literally exploded to suddenly become the most hated groups of people on this planet earth. 

In the entire world in the first century there was no notice "Christian" "Circe" or "church."  For three hundred years after the resurrection of the Christ, notice very carefully, there was no "Christian "church. However there did exist only a pagan house of the Greek goddess named "Circe."  This word 'Circe" will evolve to become what today is identified as a "Church,"   "Circe was the name of a house a double round building made for worship to the  goddess "Circe."

When the Roman Catholic church  was started by Constantine in the Fourth century this was the beginning of mass killing of the true Roman Catholic "Ecclesiam of Christ."  That true Latin Catholic "Ecclesiam" of Christ existed in Rome three hundred years before the Catholic church was started in the fourth century.

Beware of all churches.  The torture and human atrocities committed against God and his Roman Catholic Ecclesiam  and millions of humans by religious “Churches” can not be numbered.  The theme was Love Your Neighbor –for all who identified self as a "church" a time to kill the opposition, a time to kill torture, maim and kill those of the true Ecclesiam who disagree with the Catholic church doctrine!  Persecution of truth loving Christian of the true Catholic the Latin Ecclesiam of Christ continues to this very day.

The Church, which, with a satanic twist of humor, claimed to be the instrument of 'Christ's loving kindness,’ taught a brutalized and impoverished people new meanings to the words pain and suffering for those of the true Latin Catholic Ecclesiam of Christ.

For those who dared to become the true "Ekklesia" of Christ or teach the true Bible doctrine which is different from the New Catholic “church” their  judgment of the rulers of the "Church" was:   Incarceration – starvation – psychological torment and terror – laceration – mutilation  strangulation – suffocation – crushing – choking – burning – garrotting,  slow and agonizing death.


   Burning at the stake, a 16th century device for lifting the victim in and out of the fire and slowing roasting them alive was not only a catholic church  form of punishment for disagreeing with their church doctrine but protestant churches in communities where the majority ruled as “Churches” also used this form of punishment for disagreeing with their false doctrines.   Other forms of Torture for thinking different than the status Quo of a "church" was  yjr Judas cradle, the Rack, The wheel, The breast ripper, The claws and many other terrifying instruments of torture for just being accused of some form of heresy or Witch Craft and not be able to prove self innocent before the rulers of the Catholic church.

 The first Roman Catholic "Ecclesiam of Christ" could not physically  fight back at those who were killing them because Christ commands His roman Catholic Ecclesiam is a spiritual army and physical killing is not allowed by Christ who is the king and the  head of the Roman Catholic "Ecclesiam."  The in the fourth century the  "Ecclesiam of Christ" was forced to go back underground as they had been underground in the Roman Empire for over three hundred years.

Today the rulers of the Roman Catholic church hate with the same passion the members of today's Ecclesiam of Christ as much as the first century Romans hated the first Ecclesiam from their beginning in the first century.  For over a thousand years to kill the Christians of the true Roman Catholic Ecclesiam of Christ was a common sport among the rulers of the first to third century Roman Empire. 

Today the multitudes of church leaders of the Romans Catholic Church  including all the popes of the Catholic church hate those members of the true Roman Catholic Ecclesiam of Christ.   Only in this twenty first century has the Roman Catholic stopped the mass killing of the Christians who are more like the first true  Ecclesiam of Christ. The hundreds of years of mass Killing of Christians in Ireland is just one example of mass killings by the Catholic church.

Then in the fourth century the prophecy of Daniel 7:25 was fulfilled as a powerful ruler  would conquer three other rulers and establish self as all powerful ruler.  His name was Constantine.  Daniel gives all Christians warning that in the everlasting kingdom this  ruler (Constantine) would  be the instrument of Satan and he would "Speak word against God (blaspheme God) and he world change the laws of God and he would change the Bible records  the set times the God of the Bible has written down as the time for His people to gather and to worship.

Constantine gave only one choice to the fourth century Christian of the Roman Catholic Latin  Ecclesiam were allowed to stay alive only if they stop being any part of the hated true Roman  Catholic Ecclesiam of Christ and they must become a member of the new organization Constantine named after one of his favorite goddesses named a "Circe."  Over the Centuries the name "Circe" will evolve to become the derivative of the name a "Church." The "Circe" or the "church" was an organization started by Constantine for the State government in the early fourth century.  He started the name law the catechism for his pagan god.

Starting under Constantine those hated "Christians of the Roman Catholic "Ecclesiam of Christ" would continued to be first skinned alive and then burned at the stake or their heads would be cut off for over one thousand years by the rulers of the organize started by Constantine as  "the Church."

The smaller groups of the Ekklesia of Christ was also hated by the larger groups of protestants and the protestant also begin to torture and to kill the true members of the Ekklesia of Christ. To this day true members of the true Ekklesia of Christ are just as hated by members of "Churches" as they were in the first century and today the Ekklesia of Christ is being exploited daily by false teaching about them.

 Are you truly a God loving and a truth loving Catholic, then you should know the truth about your Catholic church History.

History taught from the first Catholic church is discovered written by members of the Catholic church is a large volume of Books of history called of the Ante Nicene, the Nicene and Post Nicene Fathers which is a two thousand year history written by the Catholic church about the true name "Ecclesiam" and shows how the true name Ecclesiam was changed to the false name of a "Church" which has deceived millions of multitudes. Search the Catholic Vulgate Bible translated by Jerome from out of the Vatican Codex.  Search the Catholic Encyclopedia of church history from out of the Ante Nicene the Nicene And Post Nicene Fathers.   You can find this history on the World Wide Web for free.  All you have to do is put forth the effort to learn what truth is.

 Then Y'esus declares to the Catholic Church and to the world that He (the Christ) and has established his Greek "Ekklesia" or the true Roman Latin “Ecclesiam."  Christ also declares in the translated Latin vulgate  "The Gates of Hell will not prevail against His Greek Ekklesia  which is translated into the Catholic Bible as the "Ecclesiam."  Note carefully, Christ did not say the gates of Hell will not prevail against a "Church."
Some who have made a study of churches say there is 38,000 churches with thousands of different church doctrines that are in complete opposition to one another.  Then it is easy to see the gates of Hell have overcome all the "churches."   Then the "churches" can not possibly be the same as "the Ekklesia of Christ" because we can easily see the gates of hell has overcome and the gates of hell has divided all the churches.

Look at the true Ekklesia of Christ.  The true Ekklesia of Christ remains the same today as it was in the first century.  The Greek Ekklesia or the Latin Roman Ecclesiam of Christ has never changed and cannot be changed from the time of the first century that Christ establish his Ekklesia.  The Catholic Ecclesiam of Christ has not changed since the first century. That is why the true "Ecclesiam of Christ" is hated by leaders of the Catholic church.
 Now take careful note: Christ in the Latin Vulgate of the Catholic Church did not say that He has a "Church" but He did say to all the Catholic People and to all the world that He does have His Greek Ekklesia or the true Roman Latin "Ecclesiam." There is a great difference between the first Century Roman Catholic Latin "Ecclesiam of Christ" when compared to the  Roman Latin "Catholic Church of Christ,"  they are not the same in word definition.

 In the first to the fourth century in the Ecclesiam of Christ, the entire congregation of the people determined for themselves what is to be true "doctrine" or the true instruction from God.  After the fourth century and after Constantine changed the true name given by Christ as his "Ecclesiam" to a false name given by the emperor Constantine as a "Church."   Then only one man the pope was allowed to determine what was “true doctrine" or the true instructions supposedly given from God.     

Know this fact for certain, today you can hear and see the word "ecclesiastical" written in many Catholic teachings by the Pope, the Cardinals, the Bishops, the Priest and others of the Catholic church. For any doctrine (instructions from God) to be identified as "Ecclesiastical" must be determined by all the people through polemic debate.  That is the purpose of the Ecclesiam of Christ.

Know this fact for certain it has been one thousand and seven hundred years since all the called out people of the Catholic church have been allowed to determine for self true doctrine or law determined only through the true Roman Catholic "Ecclesiam of Christ!" There has not been the freedom to take a vote by all the people of the Catholic church to determine what is true "ecclesiastical" (Law determine though polemic debate in the open assembly)  since the pagan Emperor Constantine (who made the claim to be a god on earth).  It was Constantine who stopped the Roman Catholic  Ecclesiam and polemic debate on doctrine for the entire called out assembly in the fourth century "Circe" or "church."   Constantine was the first to begin to change the name of the Roman Latin "Ecclesiam" to what is now called a "church."

The first to the fourth century Roman Catholic "Ecclesiam of Christ" was persecuted mercilessly for three hundred years.  The ruler Constantine started a new kind of war and a new kind of persecution with the hated true Ecclesiam of Christ.   This war was a spiritual completely one sided war.  Constantine and the popes and church rulers who followed Constantine torture and murdered those Christians of the Ecclesiam who opposed the Catholic church.  Christians of the first Roman Catholic  Ecclesiam did not believe in killing their opposition in this war. So the fourth century "Ecclesiam of Christ was forced to go back and to stay underground for over one thousand years as was prophesied in the book of Revelation.
In the year 321 AD the emperor Constantine who thought himself to be an earth god (passed the decree of time change for all Christians in his new Church he called His Catholic or universal church.) 
The fire council of Nicaea. 
The First Council of Nicaea (naɪsi:ə; Greek: Νίκαια) was a council of so called "Christian bishops" that convened in Nicaea in Bithynia (present-day İznik in todays Turkey) by the Roman Emperor Constantine I in AD 325. This first ecumenical council was the first effort to attain consensus in the church through an assembly representing all of Christendom. [5][6]


Icon depicting the Emperor Constantine and the bishops of the First Council of Nicea (325) holding the Niceno–Constantinopolitan Creed of 381.

The decree was not to callout the assembly to hold polemic debate to determine what truth is but the Emperor carried out his earlier statement: everybody who refused to endorse the Catholic Creed would be exiled. Arius, Theonas, and Secundus refused to adhere to the creed, and were thus exiled to Illyria, in addition to being excommunicated. The works of Arius were ordered to be confiscated and consigned to the flames while all persons found possessing them were to be executed.[14] Nevertheless, the controversy continued in various parts of the empire.

This decree to kill those who oppose catholic doctrine is against the teaching of Christ.  In Mathew chapter 13 Christ commands not to kill those who are of the poison seed that is sown by the disciples of Satan.  Let them alone and let them grow together with the good seed or else you will root up those of the good seed that is sown by Christ.  If you kill the poison seed and if you force people to become your type of a Christian you destroy the faith of the good seed sown by God (Matthew chapter 13).   
Historical record of the Catholic church clearly shows the Student that in the fourth century, those knowledgeable Christians who demand the "church" keep the 'Ecclesiam of Christ" so that all the called out people to be allowed to determine doctrine or the instruction from God, their heads were cut off, they were burned at the stake or skinned alive by the leaders of the Catholic church as being heretics against the Pope.
We know the word “Church” is a derivative from the house of the goddess Circe.
Now notice this date in history  the name was being in forced in the fifth century by Catholics of the "Circe" or church..

“Given on the third day before the Calends of March at Thessalonica in the year of the fifth consulship of Gratian Augustus and the first consulship of Theodosius Augustus Febuary 28, 380  [Gregorian 440 A.D]. “

We command the person who follow this rule shall embrace the name of Catholic Christians.  The rest whoever whom we adjudge demented and insane shall sustain the infamy and heretical dogmas. Their meeting places shall not receive the name churches. And then shall be smitten first by Devine vengeance and second by the retribution of our own imitative which we shall assume in accordance with the Devine judgment.

Anyone who has a gathering but will not conform to Catholic dogma can not be identified as a “Church.”   

Those who do not keep Catholic Dogma are warned their god has given them the right to take divine vengeance they begin to kill, burn alive at the stake, cut of their heads,  whoever opposes their church doctrine. 



In a discussion with a Catholic internet teacher when he was ask to debate the Bible he declared.
"We Catholics do not debate the Bible!"  "We the Catholic Church wrote the Bible and what was spoken by Christ and written by the apostles and Bible writers of the first century is now obsolete and the new Catechism is the only word from our god that we now debate."  This man is teaching only a part of the truth about what the Catholic church.  It was the first century  Ekklesia of Christ that wrote the entire bible and not the Catholic  church. It is true when the member of the Catholic church said that what is written in the Bible is now obsolete for all Catholic church doctrine when compared to what is written in the Catholic Catechism.

 Most all teaching from the catechism is false and contradicts against what is written in the Bible. The Catechism cult is never allowed to be compared in polemic debate in a "Ecclesiam" the called out assembly so all members of the Catholic church can make decision for self on the source of truth. 

 Every sin committed by the seven "Ekklesias of Asia," the Roman Catholic Church committed the same sins when they changed their name from the Roman Catholic Ecclesiam to a Roman Catholic "Circe" or a Church.   God gives this same warning to the first century Roman Catholic "Ecclesiam" that he gave to the seven "Ekklesias in Asia.   

God's promise was to the first Roman Catholic Ecclesiam as long as they teach truth in what is written He will give them doctrine through the Holy spirit to guide the Ecclesiam in Rome.  The warning was if they stop being the true Ecclesiam of Christ and  begin to teach a false doctrine then God warns them that he will reject them.
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God also give His promise to those of the true Roman Catholic Ecclesiam there will be some in the first century Roman Catholic Ecclesiam that stood up and refused to accept the change from the true name Ecclesiam of Christ to the false name of a "Circe" or a "Church of Christ." Then there are historical records of the Catholic church telling us how the professing Christian were killed by the Catholic church.  Here is the promise of God to them who were faithful that were burned alive, their heads cut off some were skinned alive by the beginning fourth century Catholic church.

Rev.  10  Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life.

God gives this same warning to the beginning fourth century Catholic church that begin to commit the same wicked sins and other sins that are even worse than the wicked sins of the seven Ekklesias in Asia. 
"You as the Catholic church did not write the Bible, the Bible was written by the Ekklesia of Christ in the first century before you became a "Catholic church."

Here is God’s condemnation of the seven Ekklesias of Asia

Rev. 3: 4  John to the seven Ekklesias which are in Asia.

Rev 3:1   I know thy works, that thou hast a name that thou livest, and art dead.

Hear the word of Christ as He warns: salvation is of the Jews and not by the Roman Catholic priest popes or government rulers who write a new law of the Catechism.

Only the Jews are allowed to write law for the Ekklesia of Christ. Hear the word of Christ.
John 4:22  Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.
God.
The oracles of God for His Ekklesia  are not determined and written by the pope, the cardinals, the priest but instruction from God in how to be saved is written only by the Jews.

Romans chapter 3 verses 1 ¶  What advantage then hath the Jew? or what profit is there of circumcision?
2  Much every way: chiefly, because that unto them were committed the oracles of God.
The Oracles of God are written only once and only by the Jews.
Jude 3 ¶  Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.
God condemns the Roman Catholic church for thinking that they can take the place of the first century "Jews" and then they begin to write new doctrine for their god of their Catechism.

Rev. 3:9  Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.

20  Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols.

Rev 2:21  And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not.
22  Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds.
23  And I will kill her children with death; and all the Ekklesias shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works.:

Rev. 2:4  Nevertheless I have somewhat against thee, because thou hast left thy first love.
5  Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent.
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Rev 3:19  As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.

Rev 3:1 "I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee."

 God  warns He will reject them.
Rev chapter 2 verses  14  But I have a few things against thee, because thou hast there them that hold the doctrine of Balaam, who taught Balac to cast a stumblingblock before the children of Israel, to eat things sacrificed unto idols, and to commit fornication.
15  So hast thou also them that hold the doctrine of the Nicolaitans, which thing I hate.
16  Repent; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will fight against them with the sword of my mouth.
17  He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the Ekklesias; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it.


Rev chapter 2 verses 21  And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not.
22  Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds.
23  And I will kill her children with death; and all the Ekklesias shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works.

The doctrine of the Nicolaitans, which thing I hate.

16  Repent; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will fight against them with the sword of my mouth.

If we reject truth and if we do not get hot in truth God warns us that He will spit us out.

Rev. 3:16  "I will spue thee out of my mouth."

 You will not remain in Christ.


17  Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:

All Catholics need to return to the first century Roman Catholic Ecclesiam the true "Ecclesiam" and learn truth about their  false "Eucharist" they keep at many different times of what at first they kept on the day "Sunday morning."   Catholics need to learn truth about the rising of their Sun god on the first artificial day of their week of their seven sky gods and their false worship they make at different times they make the false claim to be "solemn occasions."

Truth for all Catholics you will be amazed when you learn for certain this truth. 
The first century Roman Catholic Ecclesiam gathered on the night of Day one of the Sabbaton (our modern Saturday night) to observe their Pasover memorial.   Today Millions of Catholics on the true night of the resurrection of the Christ continue to keep the true Bible day one of the Sabbaton (our modern Saturday night).  On this true resurrection night of day One, in a memorial of Christ multitudes of Catholics continue to keep what they identify as a "Eucharist" (The Greek thanksgiving).  However on this true night The Thanksgiving worship (Eucharist) of most of the Catholic church is not observed at all as is commanded by Christ in the Bible records.  As Christ has commanded, there are only a few Catholics who first give thanks for the fruit of the vine and then we are to pour out or divide the fruit of the vine to one another (in communion a cutting and sharing) as Christ commands us to do in keeping his memorial (Luke 22: 14-16).

Dear Catholics friends, the Lord Christ has taught us to 'Know the truth and the truth will set you free." John 8:32  And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. We all who love Christ want to be free from the bondage of sin.  As a Catholic (Universal) Christian I challenge you to make this study of the first Roman Catholic History and learn truth so that in the end in a study of Bible truth you can learn what is the true source of doctrine and only then you can learn truth in how to be saved.

What is taught here, I beg you to believe in your ability to study and make your own search of History to discover for certain that what we are teaching you is truth.

Know this truth for certain, at the first or in the beginning of the first century the Roman Catholics Christians were not ever identified as a "church."  History proves that for the first three hundred years after the resurrection of Christ the Roman Catholic Christians were called the Roman Catholic "Ecclesiam of Christ" and they were not called the Roman Catholic "church of Christ" as is written in the Roman Catholic Catechism. See for yourself by looking at the first Roman Catholic Latin Vulgate Bible in Matthew chapter 16 verse 18.   The Apostle Paul wrote His letter to the first Roman Catholic "Ecclesiam" and Paul did not write to a "Roman Catholic Church."  For three hundred years after the resurrection of the Christ there was no such organization known as a "church of Christ,"

The first Roman Catholic "Ecclesiam" is the true name given by Christ to the first Roman Catholic "Ecclesiam"  The first to the early fourth century Roman Catholic "Ecclesiam of Christ" was an exact true copy of the first Greek "Ekklesia of Christ" that was first established in Jerusalem near the year "thirties" near to the early part of the first century. The first true Roman Catholic Ecclesiam was a very militant Latin Roman Catholic organization established by Christ specifically for the purpose to fight in the spiritual war and was designed purposely by the Christ to overcome the gates of hell. 

The First Roman Catholic Ecclesiam ever to exist on earth was a growing spiritual war like power in the Christian religion that was very rapidly overcoming the entire world.

Today in the Roman Catholic Church you will never get to hear the other side of Bible teaching so that refusal by today's Catholic  church leaders to allow the whole congregation to hear the other side of Bible teaching and to decide for self who has true source of doctrine so that secrecy makes the Roman Catholic Church a secret "cult."  The leaders of the modern Roman Catholic church dare not open their assemblies to polemic debate on opposing Bible teaching for fear their wicked false teaching will be exposed to their church members.

This Truth for Catholics is about the first true Catholic Church and we are comparing truth of the modern Catholic "Church" to the First true Roman Catholic  'Ecclesiam" that was later changed to a "Roman Catholic Church." The name of first Roman Catholic Ecclesiam, is just a true transliteration by the Catholic Translator Jerome into the Latin Vulgate Bible from the Bible Greek word "Ekklesia."   The true purpose  or the true function of the first Roman Catholic Ecclesiam in the first to the fourth century,  is in purpose the exact same copy of the "Ekklesia" that Christ established for all Christians to be edified though polemic debate in the war against the gates of Hell. The first Catholic "Ecclesiam" of Christ in Rome is not the same organization as the first Catholic church in Rome that was later started in the fourth century by the Emperor Constantine.

The main function or purpose of the first Roman Catholic Christian "Ecclesiam" of Christ was designed by God to allow the whole called out congregation to hear the other side of the Bible teaching that was in the opposition to what is being taught. Do you fully understand what was just stated. The First to the fourth century Roman Catholic Ecclesiam invited public discussion about the Bible to be made before the entire congregation and the entire congregation were allowed to voice their vote to determine for self what the truth of Bible teaching was.    The first Roman Catholic Ecclesiam of Christ is designed purposely to promote Bible truth through polemic debate in the open called out assembly.  After polemic debate then the whole called out congregation of the Catholic Ecclesiam of Christ was allowed to vote to determine for themselves what the truth is being taught in the Bible.   In the first to the fourth century the leaders of first the Roman Catholic Ecclesiam allowed the members to determine for self what Bible truth is and the truth of Bible teaching was  accepted by the entire called out congregation of the first true Roman Catholic Ecclesiam of Christ.

 When the first Roman Catholic Church was started in the fourth century, the leaders of the new name Roman Catholic church no longer allowed their members to hold the called out  'Ecclesiam" to determine for self what truth is through polemic debate before all the Ecclesiam.   When Constantine stopped allowing the whole "Called Out" congregation to hear the other side of Bible teaching He also refused to allow all members to make choice for self truth the Bible teaching of the other side.  In the Fourth century the majority of the called out congregation of  the first Roman Catholic "Church" no longer allowed Church members to decide for themselves who was teaching the Bible truth.  To the new Roman Catholic Church the Bible then became obsolete and instead of obedience to God in the Bible the New Catechism replaced the Bible and the people of the Catholic church who rebelled at their false teaching were put to death in some of the most horrible torture and death.


Now my Friend,  you should study this subject and learn how it was only the emperor Constantine who has first started the cult of all so called Christian "Catholic churches."  It is amazing how the name "church" has evolved from the ancient name "Circe" to deceive almost the entire Christian world.

The world historians declare the word "Church" is  derivative of the ancient word "Circe" is found written in the ancient Greek some believe to be seven to nine hundred years before the coming of the Christ.  That being truth would mean that the derivative of the name "Church" started in the Greek language some three thousand and thirteen years ago in Greece.  The name "Circe" is found written in the writings of Homer thought by some historians to be written in the seventh century BCE.  Other historians say the writings of Homer date from the ninth century BCE when Homer writing in the Odyssey about the love affair of 'Odysseus' with the wicked goddess "Circe."
 
Word definition for the modern word  "Church" has evolved form the Greek word "Circe" and has been adapted over the centuries from the ancient word "Circe. The Greek name "Circe" pronounced in the modern English as  "Kir-kee."

In Homer's Odyssey, the fertility goddess of love and round things "Circe" will later be adapted into the Greeks, the Romans and the Celts (English) as a "Circe" (Kirk, kir-kee) as a double round house, a double round building made to worship the goddess "Circe." The Idol statue of the goddess "Circe" was placed in the "apse" (the smaller joined round building facing the rising of the sun from the east).

The Latin word Catholic is meaning "Universal or world wide." 
Know this truth taught from world history about the first Catholic "Ecclesiam" ever to exist on earth and then compare the first Catholic  "Ecclesiam" to the fourth century when Constantine changed the name of the "Catholic "Ecclesiam" to the first "Catholic Church" ever to exist on earth.

 Know this fact for certain that in the beginning of the first century the pristine "Catholic Ecclesiam" there was at the first only one true Catholic or universal Ekklesia of Christ. Also know this fact for certain, the infinite God of the Bible did not start any churches. The word "church" or the word definition for the word "church" is not found written once in the entire ancient Greek language of the Bible.  

So who has started your Church? 
 Do you know for certain; who really did in truth start your church? It is true the Catholic church started all the churches in the entire world.  There is not a "church" in the entire world that was not first started by the Catholic church and that fact includes the church of Satan in San Francisco and the gay and lesbian church. 

In the beginning before the foundation of the earth, God named His bride and gave her the name of  "Ekklesia." The Bible record declares that God "Y'esus Christ" died for His bride or His CATHOLIC OR UNIVERSAL called out  "Ekklesia." 

Ephesians chapter 5 verse 25  Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the Ekklesia, and gave himself for her. (a true and exact Bible translation from the Greek).

The record clearly declares Christ died for His Ekklesia. Nothing is said about Christ dying for a "Church."

Isaiah 54:5 For thy Maker is thine husband; the Yᵉhovah of hosts is his name; and thy Redeemer the Holy One of Israel; The ‘elohiym of the whole earth shall he be called.

Isaiah 52:6 Therefore my people shall know my name: therefore they shall know in that day that I am he that doth speak: behold, it is I.



The following are two very different organizations describing the Ekklesia of Christ compared to a Church of Christ.  Both the Ekklesia compared to a Church have two very different functions so they have two very different word definitions.

1)  The Catholic or the universal Ekklesia of Christ is the first Catholic Ecclesiam is married to Christ that has ever existed in the entire world.

2)  The first Catholic "church of Christ" was started in the fourth century and is the first so called "Christian church" ever to exist in the entire world.

Study and learn the truth of how only in the early forth century the emperor Constantine has started every church that exists in the entire world.

Know this fact for certain The infinite God of the Bible did not start any churches. The word "church" or the word definition for function or the purpose of  the word "church" is not found written once in the entire ancient Greek language of the Bible.   So who has started your Church? Do you know for certain; who really did in truth start your church?

In the beginning before the foundation of the earth God named His bride and gave her the name of  "Ekklesia" and the Bible record declares that God "Y'esus"  died for His bride or His called out  "Ekklesia." 

Again read the book of Ephesians chapter 5 verse 25 the apostle Paul wrote   Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the Ekklesia, and gave himself for her. (check this out, it is a true translation).

 Christ did not give himself for the world but the record declares that he gave himself for his Ekklesia. Now  carefully take note, the record did not say that Christ died for a "Church." but the record declares very clearly in the original Greek that he died only for his "Ekklesia."   For Christ to die for a "church" the word definition and the function or the purpose of the "Church" must be the same word definition as the "Ekklesia."  Not on your spiritual life is a "church" the same word definition  as the word definition for the Ekklesia of Christ. 

Because in the first century until the year two thousand the Greek word "Ekklesia" and the word definition for the Greek word Ekklesia is discovered to be only one word of one kind in the entire world.  In the entire world there is no other word in any language of the world like the Greek word "Ekklesia."  So it is impossible to translate the Greek word Ekklesia into any other languages of the world because no other language in the world has a word in their language to describe the function or purpose of the Ekklesia. 

There is no word in any language outside the Greek that has any word definition to correctly describe the purpose or the function of the Greek "Ekklesia of Christ."  Then the Greek word "Ekklesia" must only be transliterated into other languages and then true word definitions taught to the students (disciples of Christ). Just to hold polemic debate in the called out assembly does not make the true Ekklesia of Christ.  Only teaching truth and through obedience to truth will  make the true Ekklesia of Christ.  To be the true Ekklesia of Christ the Ekklesia must teach only the true doctrine to be identified as the true Catholic or universal Ekklesia of Christ.

The Bride of God is corrected, transliterated or written and identified as the Catholic "Ekklesia of Christ." In the beginning of the marriage of God to His bride, His Ekklesia, he is married only to the humble called out spirits that he Has called. And those same spirits are those who obey God and Christ declares them to be His bride.   The Bride of Christ is only named in the ancient languages of the Bible as  "The Ekklesia of Christ." The function or the purpose of the Ekklesia of Christ is -nothing like the word definition of a "Church."

Matthew chapter 16 verse 18, Christ declares that His bride, the Ekklesia would be "edified" through His Ekklesia and the word of God in the fight in the spiritual war against the gates of Hell. Christ taught the gates of hell will not win, overcome or prevail in the battle for truth against the gates of hell.
    
Some would question why the battle has been lost and why is there literally thousands of different churches with thousands of different doctrines (instruction they claim to be from God)? The answer to that question is easy.  It started when in the fourth century men begin to stop identifying self as the true name of the bride of Christ "the Ekklesia."

Then in the fourth century when men began to identify self as a "church" they stopped polemic debate in the called out assembly to settle the differences in teaching  true source of doctrine once and for all.  This change from an Ekklesia to a Church is the only reason why the churches can never overcome the gates of hell.

Now take very careful note; in a world history and Bible history in research for word definition for the function or purpose of the Greek word "Ekklesia", the Ekklesia is nothing like a "Church." The following is the best word definition for the Bible Greek word "Ekklesia" given by Henri Thayer whose Bible word LEXICON is one of the most trusted source for Bible word definitions.  Thayer is translating and revising the work of the German  Bible scholar Grimm into the English language. Here is the perfect word definition that gives the true function or purpose of what the Ekklesia of Christ is to do.
  
The Bible Greek word Ekklesia that is falsely translated as the word “Church” is falsely translated from two Greek words from the Bible Greek word “Ek” meaning “out of.” And the Greek word “Kaleo” meaning to “call.”   The life giving question is what is the true called out of God to do or what is the function or purpose of the Ekklesia of Christ in true word definition.   Truth is Thayer’s Lexicon is more correct word definition for the Bible word Ekklesia which word definition of the Ekklesia is “an assembly of the people convened at the public place of council for the purpose of deliberating.” [“Deliberating” is controlled polemic debate in the called out assembly] [see J. H. Thayer, A Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament, p. 196].

You may question how do I know this is a perfect word definition for the Greek word "Ekklesia?"  I have researched the ancient history of the first and the only Ekklesia ever to exist that was in Athens Greece starting in the fifth century BCE.  In two thousand five hundred and thirteen years the word definition for the Greek word "Ekklesia" has never changed.

Truth in the word definition of the word Ekklesia requires that you must hold in your open assembly polemic debates with those who oppose the source of the doctrine (instructions from God) that you teach.  I want you to please take careful note of the word definition for the word “Church” does not correctly describe the true function of the Ekklesia of Christ. Then the word “Church” is a false translated word and not the same word definition as the “Ekklesia” of Christ.     The purpose of deliberating in polemic debate [the law] is the true function of the Bible word Ekklesia.” Christ knew what the true purpose of His Ekklesia was to perform only through polemic debate when there is suspect of false teaching.              

Now a very important question for you:  Does your church call out in an open assembly to polemic debate (deliberation or controlled aggressive discussions) with those who make the charge, that the source of teaching is a false doctrine (instructions that is making the claim to be from God is being taught in your church?  Would your church dare become the true Ekklesia of Christ and deliberate your doctrine (instructions you claim to be from God) before your whole congregation?   Do you allow polemic debate before all the assembly in your so called out Church?

In world History for over three hundred years to the first of the early fourth century the Roman Christians only identified themselves as the Latin "Catholic Ecclesiam of Christ"  as is transliterated in their ancient Latin Bibles.

In the fourth century a pagan Roman ruler named Constantine conquered three other rulers and become emperor of all Rome.  This pagan ruler or Roman emperor named Constantine all his life time thought that he was an earth god as did all other Roman rulers who went before Constantine and all the popes who followed Constantine and they also think that they are a god or Christ on earth. Constantine believed the god of the sun had made him an earth god (read the book 'Constantine the Great by John Holland Smith).  

The mother and sister of the emperor Constantine became  Christians or a part of the Roman Catholic bride of Christ which was first identified and transliterated as in the Latin the Catholic "Ecclesiam."  Early fourth century Roman Catholic Christians were being persecuted and killed by the Roman Government.  At first the Roman Catholic Christians called themselves the bride of Christ or the Catholic Ecclesiam of Christ as did all other Christians from the beginning of the Ekklesia at the resurrection moment  (See the Greek of John chapter 20 verse 17 : and Hebrews chapter 1 verse 6-8). 

 The Bible translated name of the Bride of Christ is written in the Roman Latin translated Latin Bible was transliterated as the Latin word "Ecclesiam" of Christ (go online and see the Catholic Latin Vulgate  in Matthew chapter 16 verse 18).   Now take very careful notice, this transliterated name "Ecclesiam" of Christ remains written the same today in every Latin Bible of the world.   Look it up and see for your self the Latin word "Ecclesiam" in the Roman Catholic Latin Vulgate Bible of Matthew chapter 16 verse 18.   The word "Ecclesiam" is correctly transliterated into every Catholic Latin Bible of the entire world to describe the true name of the true Bride of Christ.

We then question why do members of the Roman Catholic church choose to be called a "church" instead of their true Latin Bible transliteration written in their Latin Bibles as the "Ecclesiam of Christ?" Keep in mind to be a true purpose or the function of the Ecclesiam of Christ. It is designed by Christ to settle difference in source of Bible doctrine (Instructions claimed to be from God) and all decisions made by members on opposing doctrine must be done through polemic debate in the open called out Assembly.

In the early fourth century every Catholic Roman Christian and most of the entire civilized world knew the true word definition for the Latin word "Ecclesiam" which was transliterated in the later part of the fourth century by Jerome out of the Greek Vatican Codex into the Latin Vulgate as the Latin word "Ecclesiam. The Latin word "Ecclesiam" is correctly interpreted by Jerome who translated the first complete Catholic Latin Bible as the "Ecclesiam" which is the true name of the bride of Christ.

The mother of the Emperor Constantine taught her son Constantine that the God who gave the name Ecclesiam to his bride, commands that the Bride of Christ or all true Christians must be honest and pay their taxes and obey the laws of the land when the laws of the land do not contradict the laws of God given to his bride the Ekklesia. 

The pagan self made emperor and god of self named Constantine thought what a great religion is this Christian religion to be honest and to pay the government their taxes. Constantine decided to stop the government persecution of Christians only if they submit to his form of a new and different "Christian" religion and church.   Constantine began to make his new kind of "Christian" religion a state imposed religion.  Constantine never in his good health life time ever become a Christian. It is said as Constantine was dying on his death bed, some records say he was sprinkled with water, other records say he was immersed in water just before he died. 

Daniel gives this warning to all Christians that there would be a ruler who will change Bible laws and set times of God.  Dan. 7 verse 25  And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.

   Constantine thought that he was a god and he decided He could as a god change the laws of The infinite God of the Bible, and he did speak great words against the God of the Bible and he passed laws "Edicts" to stop killing the "Christians" only if the Christians begin to obey his new church laws and become a part of his new organization he called a Church. However if Christians did not obey his laws for Christians to become a church all such Christians were tortured and killed without recourse. Constantine begin to make this new Christian religion a state religion and forced every Roman citizen to become a part of his pagan religion  and a part "Christian" and as a part of their religions they will pay him not only taxes but they must also pay indulgences whenever they sin.

Constantine was a very superstitious pagan ruler.  He worshipped the mystery religions of the pagan god "Mithra."   Constantine also worshipped many other gods and goddesses.  One of his favorite goddess was the goddess of fertility a sexual nymphomaniac named "Circe." Constantine named his new organization a "Circe" for his goddess "Circe."  This word "Circe" will eventually evolve to become what today is called a "church."   Every time Constantine wanted to change the laws of Christians and to mix and wed his pagan religions with the bride of Christ or the early fourth century  Catholic Roman Ecclesiam.  The new Roman catholic "Christians" of the early fourth century would always bring up truth of what the Bible is teaching and then certain conservative Christians would always frustrate Constantine and demand that Constantine call out the whole assembly of the bride of Christ and hold Ecclesiam or polemic debate on any controversial subject before Constantine who thought himself to be a god of his "Church." As a god of his new organization of a "Church" of the Roman state government Constantine  begin first to change the laws of God given to His bride and changed to a different doctrine of the Latin Roman "Circe or "Church."

  There was no way that Constantine could change the doctrine (instructions) from God because of these stubborn Catholic Christians of the fourth century who demand the whole assembly be called out and discover the true source of any strange Doctrine that must first be deliberated through polemic debate before the entire Catholic congregation before any strange doctrine can be accepted by the Roman Catholic Ecclesiam or the bride of Christ.   

These early fourth century true Catholic Christians demanded truth to be accepted only through the function of the Ecclesiam  to determine their source of doctrine or to make any changes in the laws of God to his bride in the Roman Catholic Ecclesiam. This demand to hold Ekklesia on "doctrine" made changes almost impossible for the pagan ruler Constantine to change the doctrine of Christ.  Constantine tried everything to try and get around and stop the function of or the true purpose of the Ecclesiam that functions to determine doctrine (instructions from God). 

Only through polemic debate was required on any change of doctrine of the conservative Roman Catholic  Christian's Ecclesiam.  The early fourth century Catholic Christians demand true word definition for the Roman Catholic Latin word "Ecclesiam" means that to determine source of any Doctrine (instructions from God) the whole assembly of the bride of Christ the Ecclesiam must be called out together and if any have any objections to anything being taught there must be deliberation in the open assembly  so through  polemic debate on any subject that is opposed all could come to one mind on what truth is.  It was impossible for Constantine to bring in his false pagan doctrine as long as all the true Catholic Christians demand all the entire congregation to be called out of the Roman Catholic Ecclesiam and only through polemic debate on any change in doctrine (instructions claiming to be from God).

  Constantine thinking that since that he is god on earth he should be able to change the laws of The God for the true bride of Christ or the true  Roman Catholic Ecclesiam.   The only thing left for Constantine to do was to try and devise a way to change laws of the Roman Catholic Ecclesiam  by changing the true name of Roman Catholic Ecclesiam to  A DIFFERENT NAME. WITH A COMPLETE OPPOSIT OR DIFFERENT WORD DEFINITION.  Constantine's  favorite place of worship called the double round house or Shrine of his goddess "Circe."     Constantine decided to change the name Ecclesiam to  the new name "The Circe of Christ," which was a place of worship to the goddess of round things "Circe" who was worshipped in a double round building." The double round building was called "Circe" pronounce Kir-key.  The word "Circe" will evolve over the centuries to become the word "church."  

Later the name "Circe" will evolve to be called a "church of Christ."   Constantine starts making new laws he called "edicts" for house of "Circe." These new laws from the earth god Constantine would start to be written  in the Catholic Catechism and identified as  the Roman catholic "Circe" which over the centuries the word "Circe" will evolve to be named the "church."    

So the first Catholic church ever to exist in the entire world was first started  by Constantine.  The first protestant to translate the word "church" into the English was the English Bible translators The Wickliffe Bible in about 1395 AD.  Then Constantine thought he was a god on earth and he could make laws for Christians. Constantine began to design what he named the Catechism or a new Bible for all the New Roman Catholic Church.

The new Roman Catholic Catechism of the goddess "Circe" was to supersede the Old out dated Bible and now for the Catholic Church the New Covenant or Testament from God has become obsolete.   To this day when you invite the modern Catholic church to debate the Bible they will tell you up front that they do not debate the Bible because Constantine and his elected bishops of the fourth century declared the Old Greek New Testament is now obsolete and the new 'Catechism" is the only book of laws that they will dare to debate.   Those of the Catholic church are terrified to hold debate before all their assembly on any Bible doctrine before all their called out  "church."

Today Roman Catholic churches and all other offspring daughter churches, including the church of Satan in San Francisco and the gay and lesbian churches were just more church of Satan first started by Constantine and not one will dare to become true Ekklesia of Christ and open their assemblies to polemic debate to prove that they have true source of doctrine (or instructions from the infinite God of creation).  So you must choose to be  either a 'church" of Constantine or the Ekklesia of Christ.  You can not be both! So which will you choose The true Ekklesia of Christ or the Church started by Constantine?

Now you should know it was only the emperor Constantine who has started all true churches in the entire world.

Know the truth in the world history of the first Catholic church ever to exist on earth and compare to the first Catholic Ekklesia ever to exist on earth.  Know this that in the beginning there was at the first only one true Catholic or universal Ekklesia of Christ. Also know this fact for certain, the infinite God of the Bible did not start any churches. The word "church" or the word definition for the word "church" is not found written once in the entire ancient Greek language of the Bible.   So who has started your Church?   Do you know for certain; who really did in truth start your church?

In the beginning before the foundation of the earth God named His bride and gave her the name of  "Ekklesia" and the Bible record declares that God "Y'esus"  died for His bride or His CATHOLIC OR UNIVERSAL called out  "Ekklesia." 

Ephesians chapter 5 verse 25  Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the Ekklesia, and gave himself for her (a true Bible translation).


The only method that would give licenses to change the Bible records to stop polemic debate in the called out assembly was to change the name of the “Ekklesia of Christ” to a “church of Christ.”  This wicked change in the name of “Ekklesia” to a “church”  would in word definition eliminate polemic debate in the called out assembly and then allow church rulers to begin to torture, main, skin alive, any who oppose their false church doctrines.

It is in the fourth century Constantine the Pagan Roman ruler who started the Catholic church begins to change the name of the Roman Catholic Latin “Ecclesiam of Christ” to a “church of Christ.”  Then Constantine begins to pass laws that all who oppose his false church doctrines of the catechism would be put to death without recourse.   
Our only purpose of teaching certain Bible controversial subjects tainted with paganism is that we believe to be of the utmost importance for the salvation of the true Christian believer and for unity and only through our unity bring glory and honor to our God.  

Some wicked Bible -translators twist and pummel the original meaning of some Bible words for the only purpose to promote their religious idiosyncrasies and to deceive the masses. 
 Because of false Bible translations we are forced to go back to the ancient languages of the Bible to determine what the original and true Bible word definitions are.
Some people hate Bible word definitions because true Bible word definitions sometimes will change our understanding of our most precious beliefs that we hold so dear to us. However some of us believe the words of Y'esus when he gives us this warning that only knowing the truth is what will make us free from sin (John chapter 8: verse 32). If we want to have any success in learning truth taught from the most ancient Bible manuscripts, then we must put forth the most concerted effort to determine the environment or hermeneutics of the Bible writers and then determine what the true word definitions are that are given by our God that will save us.

Let us now in all humility establish the true teaching of the Christ Y'esus. Now notice very carefully what we are teaching. Y'esus did not establish a “Church” as the true word definition that is given in most all English dictionaries that describe a “Church.” So notice the little qualifying word “if.” If it is truth that Y'esus -did establish his “Ekklesia” but he did -not establish what most call a “church” then who has established your “church?” So who started your church?            The English word “church” is a false translation of Christ’s word that he named his “Ekklesia.”

Now take very close notice to this bit of true church History comparing to the true Ekklesia of Christ.  In the record of Matthew chapter 16 verse 18 is a good example of translation of the Greek word “Ekklesia” is found in the transliteration for the Catholic church by Jerome in the fourth century to the true name of the Latin "Ecclesiam.". 
In the Latin (or English) language there is no word equivalent for the Greek word Ekklesia. Jerome simply transliterated the Greek word Ekklesia into the Catholic Latin Vulgate Bible as the true word “Ecclesiam.”  Do you as a lover of truth fully understand clearly what was just stated? The Catholics at first were called the Ecclesiam of Christ and not a Church of Christ. This is very important that we know the difference between an Ecclesiam of Christ compared to a “church of Christ.”  To be honest that kind of translating into the Latin or the English translations of the Greek word Ekklesia should also be done precisely the same as Jerome did in the Latin for all the called out people of God in the entire world                     

                  See Matthew 16:18.    See Vulgate here   http://www.latinvulgate.com/              ```The Latin vulgate of the Catholic “Ecclesiam of Christ” that is written in the Catholic Latin Bible is not a “Church of Christ.” So notice very carefully to the answer, why did the Catholic church no longer want to be identified as an “Ecclesiam” as is written in their Latin Bible? Why did the Catholic Church -change the name of their Bible name “Ecclesiam” written in their Latin Bible to the false word “church” in their “Catechism?”  The answer is the change to the name “church” was made purposely by the Catholics to be able to deceive the masses.  It is the greatest importance for us to discover; the reasons why the Catholic church changed the name of their Bible  “Ecclesiam” to the false name “Church.” The word definition for “Church is not the same for the Bible Greek word “Ekklesia.”

In the love of God, the truth and the brotherhood.

Will Wade

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